The Mormon Guide to Starbucks


Those readers who are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints know that the Word of Wisdom prohibits  alcohol, illegal drugs, tobacco and drinking coffee and tea. For those of you who can’t get enough of Barnes and Noble and need something to drink while enjoying your newest book or just need something to help you cool off in the summer or warm up in the winter, here’s a list of some great non-coffee drinks to get at Starbucks in the United States!


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Deseret News reported that Starbucks may be launching a Zombie Frappuccino this coming Halloween that will be caffeine-free, creme-based, and sugar-loaded. Rumors say it will have Caramel Apple Powder and pink powder drizzled on the whipped creme in order to make it look like brains. Dig in!



Chocolate Drinks:

Cup of hot chocolate



Hot Chocolate – Steamed milk with vanilla and mocha flavored syrups. Topped with sweetened whipped cream and chocolate-flavored drizzle.



Mug of peppermint hot cocoa



Peppermint Hot Chocolate – Steamed milk with peppermint, mocha and vanilla flavored syrups, sweetened whipped cream and dark chocolate curls.



Hot white chocolate drink



White Hot Chocolate – A traditional hot chocolate beverage made with white chocolate and steamed milk topped with whipped cream.



Starbucks White Chocolate Frappuccino




White Chocolate Creme Frappuccino – A rich and creamy blend of white chocolate flavored sauce, milk and ice. Topped with sweetened whipped cream.


double chocolaty



Double Chocolaty Chip Frappuccino – A creamy blend of rich mocha-flavored sauce, chocolaty chips, milk and ice. Topped with sweetened whipped cream and mocha drizzle.



chocolate smoothie



Chocolate Smoothie – A nourishing blend of mocha flavored sauce, a whole banana, milk, whey protein and fiber powder, and ice.



 Dairy Drinks:

Cool glass of milk




Milk – Your choice of whole milk, 2%, nonfat or soy.



cup of Maple flavored steamed milk



Flavored Steamed Milk – Steamed milk flavored with syrup.




white chocolate frap



Vanilla Bean Creme Frappuccino -A rich and creamy blend of vanilla bean, milk and ice. Topped with whipped cream.



Tall glass of cinnamon dolce frappuccino



 Cinnamon Dolce Creme Frappuccino – A creamy blend of milk, sweet cinnamon flavored syrup and ice. Topped with sweetened whipped cream and cinnamon sprinkles.



Glass of caramel creme frappuccino



Caramel Ribbon Crunch Creme Frappuccino – A creamy blend of milk and ice with four kinds of caramel. Be careful while ordering! The “Caramel Frappuccino” comes with coffee.



Fruit Drinks:

strawberries and creme



Strawberries & Creme Frappuccino – Strawberries and milk blended with ice and topped with a swirl of whipped cream.



Cool orange mango smoothie



Orange Mango Smoothie – A nourishing blend of natural orange mango juice, a whole banana, milk, whey protein and fiber powder, and ice.



Strawberry smoothie



Strawberry Smoothie – A nourishing blend of natural strawberry puree, a whole banana, milk, whey protein and fiber powder, and ice.



Glass of Passion Tango tea




Teavana® Passion Tango™ Brewed Tea– Bright tropical notes of papaya and mango with citrus hibiscus, lemongrass and a hint of cinnamon.




Glass of warm Peach Tea



Teavana® Peach Tranquility Brewed Tea– Sweet peach infusion with light citrus and floral undertones.





Warm glass of Pineapple Kona Pop tea



Teavana® Pineapple Kona Pop Brewed Tea– Pineapple and citrus infusion with light floral undertones.




Apple and Flower Drinks:

Glass mug filled with caramel apple spice



Caramel Apple Spice – Steamed, freshly pressed apple juice and cinnamon syrup. Topped with sweetened whipped cream and caramel drizzle.



steamed apple juice



Steamed Apple Juice – Freshly steamed 100% pressed apple juice (not from concentrate).




cold apple juice



Cold Apple Juice – 100% pressed apple juice (not from concentrate).




Teavana Mint Majesty Brewed Tea




Teavana® Mint Majesty Brewed Tea-A bracing blend of mint with a pinch of lemon verbena. Caffeine-free herbal tea.




Iced passion tango



Teavana® Shaken Iced Passion Tango™ Tea–  An infusion of hibiscus and natural tropical flavors, slightly sweetened and hand-shaken with ice.




Pick a dessert from the bakery and enjoy your drink!

EDIT: Even though these particular frappuccinos do not have coffee in them, it is always a good idea to ask for no coffee just to be sure there is no mistake.

Update Tuesday, May 20, 12:26pm: There has been some controversy concerning the starbucks pinterestaccuracy of this article. We stand by the statements made. Our facts were verified by the Supervisor of Corporate Customer Relations at Starbucks Headquarters in New Mexico. There is no coffee in the official recipes of any of the drinks listed in this article. If coffee is added, it is the mistake of the barista. We reaffirm our earlier advice to always request no coffee to ensure there are no mistakes.


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  • Tom Weaver

    D&C 89:2 – not by commandment or constraint, but by revelation and the word of wisdom….
    Clearly Christ just said that this is not a commandment or even a constraint, but a recommendation, a “word of wisdom”, He specifically said it isn’t a commandment.
    verse 17: Barley for all useful animals, and for “mild drinks” as also other grain.
    Using 1830’s vernacular, mild drinks meant light alcohol, just like strong drink meant high alcohol content ie distilled. Light alcohol drinks made of barley are beer. So if we were really following the WoW then we would be drinking beer.
    There has never been a revelation given since D&C 89 stating that the WoW is anything but exactly that, a recommendation. The movement was founded during prohibition to being all of the sudden a commandment. However, the vote to repeal prohibition ended up being a tie with Utah as the final vote, and Utah voted in favor to repeal, because the Saints of the day lived the WoW as a recommendation and quite enjoyed their brewed beverages. There is an old law on the books in Salt Lake placing a limit on the amount of breweries that were allowed to open because there were so many, it was stinking up the valley.
    Just like Suzie said, it is up to us not to be commanded in all things. We need to pray for ourselves to find the answer.

  • Jessica Boyd

    PSA. The fruit drinks, have up to 50 mg of caffeine.

  • Anna Aquino

    During the summer they also had a coffee free option of smores and dark chocolate mint fraps.
    They were delicious!

  • Amy richard

    My son works at Starbucks asks says yoy can ask for a pumpkin cheesecake frappacino with cream base. No coffee what so ever. It’s heaven in a cup for sure!

  • I didn’t see the caramel apple cider mentioned. That’s been my favorite across 3 states and for 10 years ;). It’s apple juice that’s been steamed, caramel, and whipped cream.

  • Crispy Crunchy

    The prohibition is not specifically for coffee, it also is for tea and other “hot beverages”, alcohol, tobacco, and any other harmful substances. Caffeine is a harmful substance, we all know that, so we don’t really need to ask why. There are things that are not addressed that I see people ingesting all the time, because it is not specifically addressed. Kids eating a handful of candy, people eating extremely fatty foods, or just simply huge portions of food that makes them unhealthy. The WoW doesn’t address things like energy drinks or other myriad of harmful substances, we just have to use out own best judgement and prayer to determine what is best for us.

  • Crispy Crunchy

    I have a question that I’ve never really gotten and answer to. I’m a convert to the LDS Church, I joined about four years ago, and one of the first things that I read was about the Word of Wisdom.

    The Word states that we must “avoid addictive substances such as tobacco, alcohol, coffee, tea, and any other drinks or food containing harmful substances.”

    My question is about caffeine free coffee or tea. Is that okay to drink?

    And I’ve noticed that there are, let me try to put this delicately, an inordinate number of “larger” people in the church. I’ve been to dinner with many of the Ward members and have seen them eat the most unhealthy food, and in huge portions. Would that also be considered a harmful substance, if you ate a pound of potato salad, a couple of cheeseburgers, and washed it down with a gallon of fruit juice?

    I’m not trying to be sarcastic or make light of anything, these are just things that I’ve observed and wonder what the stance of the church is about it?

    • Tami Nead Opdyke

      People make choices for themselves. We members are taught that along with not judging other’s. Remembering who is the only one to judge us is that of Christ, lest we be judged the same. So, they partaking in a hot apple cider (caramel apple spice) from a cup that looks like a Starbucks cup, you be judged back from the great almighty for your self righteous attitude and it’s that direct attitude that erodes ward’s and lose member’s. These drinks are non-caffeinated and coffee free. We CAN drink herbal teas. STARBUCKS offers those. They can do anything cream based without coffee. They told me and they make them. The Smores frap is my fav without coffee. It’s not evil or even apparence of, that is just plain ignorant judgement.
      If you’re so concerned over what another may or may not be doing per your understanding and interpretation then go up and sound interested in what they are drinking and ask them what they are drinking?
      But, shame on you for judging.
      It is ok to cook with wines and alcohol. You guys order entrees from places with creamy wine sauce, or marsala, or Madeira sauce. It has wine. It cooks out. There’s alcohol in extracts you bake with, vanilla, rum. Get over yourselves and start educating yourselves with how to use products and stop judging and being holier than thou. Christ wasn’t like that. On contrary, he taught, he educated, he heales, and most importantly, he loved ALL.

      And to one asking if big portions of food and what not. People make their choices and church doesn’t tell us how much or less of a food item to consume. Church didn’t specify what to eat, just, to eat things in season and in moderation. All things in moderation.

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  • Jenny

    They will also make any of the coffee drinks into steamers, they just use milk instead of coffee. (At least here in Utah.)

  • Dan

    I believe that the word of wisdom is given as a test of faith and obedience. Very few thing in this world are inherently bad in moderation. In the old testament the followers of God were told not to eat the meat of unclean animals ie. Pork. That law is no longer in effect so obviously it wasn’t that it was bad for people to eat it was a test of faith and obedience. As for me I chose to obey.

    • Gale Boyd

      The Word of Wisdom is a test of faith and obedience, but I think its best purpose is to separate the faithful from the crowd. Many a gospel discussion has begun because someone noticed that a Mormon wouldn’t imbibe with everyone else. The Word of Wisdom, as it is described in the revelation contained in Section 89 focuses on health. The Law of Moses doesn’t mention health, although it saved the Jews from suffering many of the ills suffered by the Gentile population. (Unfortunately, then the Gentiles blamed the Jews for the diseases and plagues and tortured and killed them.) The real point of the dietary laws of Moses was to separate the Jews from the pagan Gentiles and their influences.

  • Kiki

    Ya’ll know that soda, especially diet soda, is way worse for you than coffee right? Dairy and sugar combined is even worse! But you focus on coffee?? I can’t. This is just weird and sad.

    • Zaylee Smith


      • Gale Boyd

        You’re not destroying your liver?

      • Crispy Crunchy

        You know that the reason that you are not supposed to drink coffee is because of the caffeine in it, right? The reason that those cokes wake you up is because of the caffeine content, so, you might as well be drinking coffee.

        And Heavenly Father’s words came out before the advent of all of the junk that is used in diet pop. Those artificial sweeteners are way worse for your body than regular pop, tea, coffee, battery acid, swamp water, or just about anything else that you can drink. (there was a bit of sarcasm there, just in case you missed it)

    • Valerie

      Some people in certain religions or that follow rules want to drink Starbucks with no coffee. Plus, this page isn’t about soda, it’s about non-coffee drinks.

  • DCAinSLC

    “Master, which is the great commandment in the Law?” Jesus said to him, “‘Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with thy whole heart, and with thy whole soul, and with thy whole mind.’ This is the greatest and the first commandment. And the second is like it, ‘Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.’ On these two commandments depend the whole Law and the Prophets.” (Matthew 22:35-40)

  • Jordan

    If I wanted to pay 8 dollars for a hot chocolate I’d go to the ski resort.

  • Präs. Michi

    Just that you all know – Frappucino in Germany is ALWAYS with coffee. Mocha is always with coffee. These guidelines may only work for the US, not for the rest of the Starbucks world.

    Just saying 🙂

    • Tawnya

      So is it the case that literally every other country in the world makes frappucinos differently than the U.S., is it just that the U.S. And Germany make them differently and you’re assuming that everyone else is like Germany?

  • mseryn

    OH PHULEEEEEEZE, EVERYBODY START PANICKING!!!!!! People, get a grip and simply ask for NO COFFEE if you are concerned about the Word of Wisdom!

  • Suzie

    Doctrine & Covenants 58: 26 For behold, it is not meet that I should command in all things; for he that is compelled in all things, the same is a slothful and not a wise servant; wherefore he receiveth no reward.
    27 Verily I say, men should be anxiously engaged in a good cause, and do many things of their own free will, and bring to pass much righteousness;
    28 For the power is in them, wherein they are agents unto themselves. And inasmuch as men do good they shall in nowise lose their reward.

    Where much is given much is required. Let’s all use our agency choose for ourselves and be kind to others in what we say and do. We don’t have to be commanded in all things. We can use the spirit to guide and direct our lives and let others live theirs and love them no matter the choice they choose to make. This is the example Christ has shown us.
    I myself try not to put into my body anything addictive or that would alter my ability to run and not be weary and walk and not faint. I find that I don’t need a coffee to get me going in the morning and I don’t need a diet coke to get me going in the afternoon. Water, Exercise, fruit and vegetables do the trick. I will say I have enjoyed a warm hot chocolate drink from Starbucks before and really enjoyed it. Let’s all take a step back….get off the computer….and go spend some time with our family and friends.

    It really makes me sad to see almost all of the comments above both the strict or liberal ones. Can’t we all just be friends:)

  • Michelle

    We just got a Starbucks where I live and I’m thrilled to find this article! Thank you so much!!!

  • girl in desert

    I used to be confused about the herbal tea and ‘apple beer’ issue, until I saw them both being served in the temple cafeteria!

  • Amanda Jean Neufville

    The reason we shouldn’t drink coffee is not because of the caffeine in it, it is because of how it is roasted and what is used to make the final “product”. We can drink white coffee , but it is expensive… i hear, i still have to look that up. we can also drink herbal teas, it is the actual tea leaf that is not good for you in black and green tea. And nobody in the church is perfect. Perfection is something we die trying to achieve.

    • Holly Bowen

      Actually the reason we shouldn’t drink coffee is that the Lord and modern prophets told us not to…all the other stuff is just educated guess work..

  • Mocha drinks have coffee in them. By definition…they are coffee.

    • Zelph

      “Mocha” is a flavor, not coffee. Coffee is “mocha” flavored, by nature.

      • ladebbie

        Mocha is made by combining espresso (strong coffee) with chocolate. Coffee is only mocha flavored if chocolate is added. I doubt mocha flavor can be created without the use of actual espresso or coffee. That’s why I avoid it. I think extra dark chocolate makes a fine substitute for mocha.

        • Steve Behrens

          Zelph and ladebbie are describing relatively recent meanings of “mocha.” For decades and possibly centuries earlier, Mocha referred to an especially rich-tasting coffee from Mocha, Yemen. It’s easy to see how dark chocolate could replace Mocha. Mocha beans were often blended with Java coffee (from Indonesia) to make “Mocha-Java.”

          • Jamie Casados

            Mocha in Starbucks land refers to the chocolate added to your coffee drink. If you don’t have coffee in your drink, it’s just chocolate sauce. All of the frappuccinos listed in the article are under the category “creme based” frappuccinos, meaning they have no coffee in them. Almost all frappuccinos can be made creme based if you ask. All Starbucks ingredients are listed online, they aren’t hiding anything 🙂

  • another way of control I am a ex member and I never stopped drinking coffee or cola study says caffeine is good for you . please concentrate on Christ our saviour instead

    • The reason for the guideline (it’s a guideline. You don’t have to follow it. You wouldn’t get excommunicated) is it can be addictive and become a crutch. Have you ever met someone that can’t function without coffee? That doesn’t sound like a very good benefit does it? The reason we’re given guidelines is so we can have eternal happiness. So coffee gives you happiness and energy for a little while but then drops it lower than before drinking it. If you just have better diet and simple exercise routine you’d be energized and happy a lot more.

      • Becca Lynn

        Truth Celeste Smith. Truth. I once had to work a really long shift at work and I was offered an energy drink that happened to have coffee in it as well. I was so desperate for something to wake me up. I drunk it. I wish I never had touched it. The energy was great but the crash was worse. Never again will I submit myself to that.

      • Lightyears

        How is coca-cola any better? It’s not against the WOW, plus it has caffeine.

      • Lightsound

        According to your argument then why isn’t coca-cola against the WOW? It contains caffeine, and is much more unhealthy and just addictive as coffee. And you are correct WOW is not a commandment, but not following will keep you out of the temple. BTW, how sparingly do you eat meat?

      • Nan

        If addiction is the case why then are your prophets negligent in including caffeinated drinks as well, why have they said specifically that the WoW prohibition on coffee and tea is NOT because of caffeine? You are not the prophet and if your name is an indication you are not even a priesthood holder.

        • LB35

          Nan: Being ordained to the priesthood or not doesn’t invalidate someone’s understanding of spiritual things. However, Celeste’s statement that the Word of Wisdom is just a “guideline” is inaccurate. When first revealed, it was not given as a commandment (see D&C 89:1-3) but after a period of preparation, it is now as much a commandment as “thou shalt not kill”. An investigator can’t be baptized until they are living it, and a member can’t go to the temple if they are not living it either. Certainly one is not excommunicated for violating it, but that doesn’t mean it is optional. Its just like tithing or attending each week, you have your agency and won’t be excommunicated, but not keeping all of those commandments is a reflection of not seeking to live as the Savior taught.

      • Nona

        Diet Coke is far more addictive.

  • Dirk

    Why would you even go into a store like that? Just more temptation to deal with. I have never stepped foot in that store and never will. Avoid temptation folks.

    • Rshndla

      For me it has to do with my work. Many of my meetings are in coffee shops and I also am tasked with bringing the morning drinks once a week. These drinks are a good way for me to be fully engaged in my work environment without breaking my promises to my Father and myself

  • Dan

    Can someone please tell me where a prophet has stated that “hot drinks” means coffee and tea. And while you’re at it, can you also tell me where a prophet has indicated that caffeine is to be avoided? Thank you, I’ve asking for an answer to these questions for years.

    • H

      In the D&C Seminary Manual it states that:
      The Prophet Joseph Smith said: “I understand that some of the people are excusing themselves in using tea and coffee, because the Lord only said ‘hot drinks’ in the revelation of the Word of Wisdom. …
      “Tea and coffee … are what the Lord meant when He said ‘hot drinks.’” (In Joel H. Johnson, Voice from the Mountains [Salt Lake City: Juvenile Instructor Office, 1881], p. 12.)

      Caffeine is not mentioned in the Word of Wisdom. Many LDS have figured that the objectionable part of Coffee and Tea is caffeine thus they chose to avoid it. Caffeine is slightly addictive. From the D&C seminary manual for the 89th section it states that

      An official statement by the Church’s leaders reads: “With reference to cola drinks, the Church has never officially taken a position on this matter, but the leaders of the Church have advised, and we do now specifically advise, against the use of any drink containing harmful habit-forming drugs under circumstances that would result in acquiring the habit. Any beverage that contains ingredients harmful to the body should be avoided.” (Priesthood Bulletin, Feb. 1972, p. 4.)

      When interpreting any doctrine it is important to keep in mind that, as quoted in the D&C seminary manual section 89,
      An official statement by the Church’s leaders reads: “With reference to cola drinks, the Church has never officially taken a position on this matter, but the leaders of the Church have advised, and we do now specifically advise, against the use of any drink containing harmful habit-forming drugs under circumstances that would result in acquiring the habit. Any beverage that contains ingredients harmful to the body should be avoided.” (Priesthood Bulletin, Feb. 1972, p. 4.)

      If you have further questions please refer here

      This is also a great source for answers to questions

    • Steve Park

      Actually, I can prove that the proscription on coffee and tea is not doctrinal. According to LDS essay on what constitutes doctrine (available at, doctrines that are considered binding on the church as a whole come from the standard works and joint statements from the First Presidency *and* Quorum of the 12. D&C 89 doesn’t define what constitutes “hot drinks”. The statement that clarifies hot drinks as coffee and tea comes *only* from the First Presidency and not from both quorums.

      As for the health reasons to avoid coffee and tea that church members have come up with in the absence of specific guidance, nearly all of them are easily debunked. Coffee and black tea have higher amounts of caffeine than colas, but there’s no limit specified on how much is too much. I’ve known several active members who would never go near coffee or tea but have no problem chugging Mountain Dew by the gallon, even though they’re getting more caffeine than they would in a single cup of black coffee. A cup of green tea actually has less caffeine than a 12 ounce can of Diet Coke. Also, coffee and tea contain tannins, which are *not* the same thing as tannic acid. Tannins give coffee and tea their bitter flavor, but are actually antioxidants which provide many well-documented health benefits. Pomegranites contain higher levels of tannins than either coffee or tea and they’re not against the Word of Wisdom. Also, tannic acid is a highly toxic substance that would kill you in even small amounts.

      • Sierra Thomander

        Regardless, it’s in the temple interview.

    • It say hot drinks and through modern revelation we know that means coffee and tea (not including herbal teas)

      • joann

        Can you please actually cite that revelation, and do so by using the church’s own definition of revelation as referenced here:

      • Zach

        We are told, and very plainly too, that hot drinks – tea, coffee, chocolate, cocoa and all drinks of this kind are not good for man. We are also told that alcoholic drinks are not good, and that tobacco when either smoked or chewed is an evil. We are told that swine’s flesh is not good, and that we should dispense with it; and we are told that flesh of any kind is not suitable to man in the summer time, and ought to be eaten sparingly in the winter…

        …we must feed our children properly…. We must not permit them to drink liquor or hot drinks, or hot soups or to use tobacco or other articles that are injurious.

        (JD. V.12:221&223. George Q. Cannon 7 Apr 1868).

        This guy was an apostle – ya know a “prophet, seer, and revelator”. Where exactly is the revelation that contradicts his feeling the all hot liquids should be avoided?

  • CJ


    That’s from the ingredient list on the mocha syrup. “Natural flavor” means coffee-flavored extract. C’mon folks.

  • Brock

    You may want to correct the name you use for those frapuccinos. If you click on your links to Starbucks you’ll notice that the drinks have “Frappuccino® Blended Crème” in the name. Asking for the “blended cream” and “no coffee” is equivalent for Fraps. In fact you can order the other seasonal Fraps (pumpkin spice etc.) with no coffee; similarly any latte can be replaced with steamed milk.

    The point is, a “Frappuccino” will have coffee by default unless you specify otherwise.

  • Willy B

    I think people need to go read D&C 89. It does not mention tea or coffee. Coffee was brought on the trek by the pioneers. Some of the first missions established in Utah were grape growing missions for wine. There were a number of breweries in SLC, one where Hogle Zoo now is was owned by Brigham Young. Beer is the mild barely drink it says we should drink. Verse 2 says is not a commandment and no one should be forced or compelled to live it (constraint). Look at Webter’s 1928 dictionary and it tells us that “hot drinks” at that time were liquors.

    We have a twisted modern pharisaical understanding of the revelation given to us by God in D&C 89. Read it slowly and read our history. You should keep the modern interpretation of the WoW but you hold also put it into perspective.

    • Trenton

      Wow, what apostasy. Since when is man’s wisdom better than the Lord’s will and suggestions? Please reread verse 2.
      Additionally, it is not a “twisted modern pharisaical understanding” to not drink coffee and tea. The Lord has the right to give further revelation even though it is not mentioned in D&C 89. Such understanding has been revealed. The Church is called a living church because we are not confined to the limited scope of scripture (past revelation given during a specific time or situation). We are directed by a prophet of God who reveals His current will and additional instruction.
      And kudos for you about knowing that “hot drinks” being liquor. We thank you for providing one bit of truth.

      • paul anderson

        The early pioneer saints took tea,coffee and tobacco across the plains with them.In a city along a river the saints produced wine to be sold to travelers. Whats your problem?

    • H

      In the D&C Seminary Manual it states that:
      The Prophet Joseph Smith said: “I understand that some of the people are excusing themselves in using tea and coffee, because the Lord only said ‘hot drinks’ in the revelation of the Word of Wisdom. …
      “Tea and coffee … are what the Lord meant when He said ‘hot drinks.’” (In Joel H. Johnson, Voice from the Mountains [Salt Lake City: Juvenile Instructor Office, 1881], p. 12.)

    • Sierra Thomander

      It didn’t become a church-wide policy and test of fellowship until around the 1920s if I remember correctly. Line upon line.

    • It’s called modern revelation from recent prophets. Perhaps you should learn that the letter of the law is not above the spirit of the law.

      • Zach

        Lol, if it were really about revelation and caring for your health, don’t you think god would have thrown in a verse or two about washing hands or boiling water? He could have saved so many lives.

        If it were really about continuing revelation, wouldn’t god have something to say something about this country’s sugar epidemic?

        It’s not about health, it’s about indoctrination and control. Free your mind.

        Lastly, did you eat any meat last summer? If so, I’d get that appointment scheduled with your bishop if I were you.

        • Gale Boyd

          Latter-day Saints at the time the Word of Wisdom was given were eating meat at every meal, so “sparingly” was relative to their habits.

  • Mandy

    This is a great list! It’s sad to me that some people think going to Starbucks is evil. I don’t drink coffee, but I certainly don’t think anyone who drinks coffee is evil. Being a Mormon should be about trying to become like Christ, not just about avoiding coffee.

  • Chocolate has caffeine in it. Not a lot, but it’s not zero either.

    • SemanTroll

      Chocolate has theobromine, a chemical compound similar in structure and effects on the human body/mind, but it’s not caffeine.

    • We’re not commanded to not have caffeine. We’re commanded to avoid hot drinks and through modern revelation we know that means coffee and tea.

  • Kelly

    Then I guess you shouldn’t frequent Dunk in Donuts , Tim Horton , McDonald’s, and Panera to name a few because they serve evil coffee and black tea…..lolol lo l.ol ridiculous

    • I work and Dunkin, and am a Mormon. I don’t want to start a fight, but please don’t condemn other people’s beliefs as ridiculous simply because you do not believe that way yourself. The word of wisdom is largely about avoiding addictions, which is a constant theme in our church. Yes, tea and coffee are less harmful than alcohol and tobacco but they are still habit-forming unlike drinks such as hot chocolate. Of course they and the organizations that sell them are not evil, but many of us choose to avoid them for reasons best expressed by Paul in Romans 14:13. It is something that can cause contention between members and can also deter investigators from joining our faith. People are watching us and our actions, and expect a high standard from us because of what we believe.

      • Nan

        I would never join anyway but forbidding foods doesn’t sit well with me, and I would not give up coffee or tea. Both are quite good for you and are for me comfort food. Since comfort, consolation and hope are in my view utterly absent in your doctrine the loss of coffee and tea would be felt all that much more.

  • Whitley

    You can get all of the Frapuccino with cream instead of coffee

  • Kayla

    The judgement and self ritiousness in some of these posts was comical. Anyway, I am LDS and I was a Starbucks Barista for a few years and you can actually order any drink there with or without coffee. There are many more “Mormon Friendly” drinks you just have to know what and how to order 🙂 and I won’t judge you so if anyone has any questions feel free to ask:) and yes the ingredients are all correct in this post.

  • Ree

    According to GOD we are not to drink caffeinated beverages and I am appalled and sickened that people like you actually CONDONE this evil corporation under the guise of ‘not really supporting them if you don’t drink the caffeinated drinks’. This entire country is in the hands of Satan and the spread of STARBUCKS all over the world, ON EVERY CORNER is proof of this. And your answer to this is to GIVE THEM MONEY BY BUYING THEIR DRINKS? Being Mormon is more than just SAYING you support the spread of GODLY ACTIVITY, but actually LIVING IT IN YOUR LIFE EVERY DAY. If you support a company whose AIM as a BUSINESS is to spread CAFFEINATED DRINKS every where they can, YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM and there is NOTHING Mormon about you except that you choose to call yourself one.

    • Joseph

      Hello there Ree, My name is Joe, I too am LDS and u would love to post about your distaste for Starbucks industry. First of all the Doctrine and Covanents does not prohibit Caffeinated drinks, it only prohibits the use of Coffee and Tea. As spoken in Doctrine and Covanents section 89, with that being said are we really making Starbucks out to be an evil corporation because it sells Coffee and tea? Is that what we as LDS are meant to do? No I would not like to think so. Rather I would like to believe that is our job as LDS to spread the gospel and all of its truths. Not just about coffee and tea. I wad personally talking to an investigator of this church, and my Bishop had given me this advice; “Do not start with the word of wisdom and how we prohibit the use of Coffee and tea, rather we should spread gods will and his atonement then everything else would fall into place.” With that being said do we condone coffee and tea? Of course not. Its part of the exact questions that we must answer in order to receive the ability to enter the temple. But, even though we as LDS do not support it, we must not force our will upon others it will drive away those that we wish to bring unto Christ and those that are already here. So please instead of calling us all evil, think about what evil we are actually doing.

    • Laura

      Um, actually, the leaders of the church came right out and stated, some time back, that caffeine was NOWHERE in the Word of Wisdom. Caffeine isn’t the only reason we don’t drink coffee — otherwise, there would be no problem with decaf, but obviously we still don’t drink that. Please stop spouting utterly false doctrine and getting up on your self-righteous high horse, and learn what the Word of Wisdom is ACTUALLY about.

    • Heidi

      This is so extreme it has to be a joke. You can’t actually mean that. Nice trolling! (:

    • Trenton

      Ree, I agree with Joseph. Take as step back and think about the most fundamental principle of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. Then I think you will find that a lesser number of people of other Christian faiths will be so quick to create contention (or vice versa) when you speak.
      And to help you see the irrationality of your argument, I challenge you to no longer do business with any company that sells alcohol, coffee, tea or any other substance considered to be against the Word of Wisdom.

    • Francine

      Every grocery store on the planet carries coffee, tea, alcohol, and fattening, addictive foods. Are we to avoid buying good foods because the store also sells these “evil” products? It is a matter of personal choice. If you can’t resist the “bad” drinks, by all means, don’t go to Starbucks. But in their defense they do sell some really good stuff.

    • Lisa Bragg

      Actually the Word of Wisdom says not to take in Hot drinks…..never says a thing about caffeine.

    • Nan

      “I am appalled and sickened that people like you actually CONDONE this evil corporation under the guise of ‘not really supporting them if you don’t drink the caffeinated drinks’”

      Just so you know your ugly attitude is EXACTLY why people have a low opinion of Mormons.

  • Debbie

    thank you for the list! I never frequent the Starbucks in town, but I often do when I’m staying at the hospital with my grandson. There are 3 Starbucks in his hospital, and the food there is much better than the cafeteria. I love their peppermint hot chocolate and the Carmel apple Spice (even though it is definitely not ‘fresh pressed’). Their sandwiches and pastries are so good to!

  • Elle

    I was told by my Stake President that green & herbal tea was good, just not black tea.

    • ncrm_rm

      Stake presidents are not all knowing. When I was a missionary I served in the south where they drink a lot of tea and our mission president told us to tell investigators green and black teas are against the WoW. I’m not sure anyone really knows for 100% certainty since the D&C just states tea. I just avoid it all, herbal or otherwise. Then my bases are covered.

  • Heather

    Wait…I thought it was caffeine drinks that they didn’t drink. I was a member for 17 years and that’s what I was taught! What about decaf coffee. I’ve never heard that coffee itself wasn’t allowed!

    • Joseph Smith

      Any drink made from the coffee bean is not allowed with modern revelation related to the Word of Wisdom. No coffee and no tea from the tea plant (meaning black, green, blue, polka dot).

      So herbal, wheat–any tea not from the tea plant is fine. It is not caffeine that is specifically prohibited by name (however members may chose to consume caffeine in moderation per the overall spirit of the WOW).

      • Bleep Bloop

        Oh shoot, I thought polkadot tea was ok! Darn!

  • What ever happened to avoiding the appearance of evil?

    • Christopher D. Cunningham

      I have a great run down of what that phrase means to Latter-day Saints. I don’t think this article remotely applies.

    • ncrm_rm

      Amen to that. I just don’t even go to Starbucks or any other coffee shop and get drinks from there that could even appear to be coffee. I don’t drink any form of tea either. Herbal or otherwise. In my opinion it’s best to just avoid it altogether.

  • Jamie

    I love the Chai tea latte but is it mormon friendly?

    • sarah

      I was born and raised in the church and even church leaders have never said it was the caffeine, the Wow states ‘hot drinks’ which has come to mean tea and coffee. So with that being said it depends on the family to decide if they want to avoid caffinated drinks or not, which is why most avoid black and green teas, but the consumption of herbal teas differ between families.

    • sarah

      Most Chai teas have black tea in them

    • Kelly

      It’s made with black tea

    • Kathy

      Chai is black tea with spices, so that would be a no…

  • Jill

    I love their Passion Tea Lemonade! Zero caffeine, 100% delicious!

  • Aia

    TEA? No way.

    • sarah

      the herbal teas don’t contain black or green tea in them

      • Daniel

        Except that these teas aren’t listed as “herbal”

        “Teavana® brewed teas are made from high-quality whole tea leaves and buds for a sublimely flavorful experience.”


        They’re regular tea that has fruity additions.

  • Ariana

    What about the Very Berry Hibiscus Starbucks Refresher? I tried to Google it but couldn’t find anything.

    • Aia

      I talked to one barista. She said it still has a shot of coffee.

    • Rachelle

      Aia is correct. All of the Refreshers contain green coffee.

  • Mary

    🙁 the carmel ribbon crunch creme frappe is discontinued… i really wanted to try that..

  • Hollen

    Just out of plain curiosity, if Mormons don’t drink tea, then why are the Teavanna teas on the list? Or is it just caffeinated teas that are prohibited? 🙂

    • Mary

      we only drink the herbal teas, and it’s up to the families to decide if they want to drink any tea at all or if they want herbal tea.

    • Rachelle

      By definition tea is made with tea leaves. Herbal “tea” are herbs, roots,bushes, flowers,etc .it is called tea because it is steeped like tea.

  • Kristi Draper

    I’ve been a Mormon Starbucks fan for years. The chain was a favorite waystop on the way to my favorite cave diving sights when I lived in Jacksonville FL on a (senior couples) misson. My non-Mormon dive buddy and I always hit up Starbucks on the way: he got a coffee and I a grande hot chocolate, followed by a respectful discussion in the car about the LDS health code and its many benefits.

  • Sam

    Just so you know mocha syrup is made from chocolate and brewed coffee or espresso. So yes that drink with the mocha syrup isn’t mormon friendly.

    • Christopher D. Cunningham

      We did extensive research with representatives at Starbucks corporate to confirm the contents of their ingredients.

      • Sinjinsg

        Then they lied to you to drive sales. By definition moch is coffee. So it is mocha or it isn’t. They are either lying to you or to everyone else.

    • Rachelle

      The mocha DOES NOT contain any coffee. It’s basically a chocolate syrup.

      • Linda Hudson

        just when did they decide there is no coffee in mocha it has always been a mix of coffee and chocolate so is it mocha or chocolate syrup

        • Savanna

          As a member of the church and as a Starbucks employee, I can assure you that there is no coffee in the mocha base. We hand mix the chocolate syrup daily, and after checking the ingredients list on the bag, there is no sign of coffee or it’s sub-ingredients!

  • This is great! I’ve never been to Starbucks but a friend once brought us Double Chocolaty Chip Frappuccino and its good. Thanks for this post 🙂

  • Colleen

    My special LDS order is Grande soy hot chocolate minus the vanilla add hazelnut syrup. You can also ask for hazelnut drizzel on top. Sometimes I also like a steamed soy milk with a flavored syrup.

    • LindaSDF

      Soy milk? **shudder** I wish they would put almond milk on their list, it’s much healthier than soy milk.

  • Sean Trueman

    but we need to avoid the very appearance of evil. It is hard to help our friends to see the Light when we look like we partake of the world.

    i am saddened by this.


    • Samantha

      I was in this very situation. I always got water when my friends and I went to Starbucks. My friends thought I was insane. But once I realized that Starbucks has “Mormon friendly” drinks, it made going there so much easier. I now get their smoothies when its how and their hot chocolate when its cold.

      If people are going to judge me just for having a Starbucks cup, I am saddened by that. They are obviously not following Christ’s example.

      • ncrm_rm

        Maybe. But it’s the reality and it’s our responsibility to be examples of Christs church. When I served my mission, I heard from investigators or just people that we tracted into, things like “Well I thought Mormons didn’t drink coffee but I saw so and so that I work with carrying a Starbucks cup the other day?” Or “I saw so and so from your church buying a bottle of wine” (they were using it for cooking. It was a turn off to non members because we profess not to believe in those things. So whether they should judge you or not, they do! It’s the reality. I guess it’s up to you to decide what kind of example you want to be.

        • Nan

          And everyone else, make that the majority, is turned off by your ridiculous over wrought claims about the dangers of coffee and tea, and emotional nonsense about how great the benefits of avoidance are. And then there is the nasty, condescending, judgemental attitude expressed by so many LDS members here, is it any wonder Mormons run neck and neck with Muslims for most disliked. Most people haven’t been damaged by Muslim extremists, but a lot of people I know have run smack into the judgemental sour lemon face that is a Mormon seeing you drink a coffee or tea.

    • T. Jones

      Evil and Obedience are different, right? The Word of Wisdom is a law of obedience for those of us who have covenanted to follow the Word of Wisdom. It is not evil or a sin in itself.

      • Nan

        Thanks it’s refreshing to see no loathing in your post.

    • KAti

      Saddened? So if you go into a grocery store and you buy a cold root beer in a brown bottle, is that the appearance of evil? I always have a problem with this type of discussion. Yes, Starbucks is the purveyor of coffee. But so is every liquor store a purveyor of Liquor, but we all go into 7-11 for a slurpee. Are you evil then? If you choose Starbucks, and you get a hot chocolate, what is the difference of that from your hot choc at home? Starbucks has MANY food and drink options and they are usually very friendly and will make anything you want without judgement. If and when I drink there, I can always find a way to talk about the word of wisdom and how I choose what I drink. EVIL is a very big word. A family member of mine is drinking alcohol now. Is he EVIL? No. If he killed someone while intoxicated, is THAT evil? NO. It’s stupid. EVIL is a word saved for people who intend to harm, mutilate, rape, kill, etc… and you know what, even I cannot even determine WHO or WHAT is evil. Only GOD can. SO let’s lighten up on the appearance of EVIL. Let’s teach how to walk in the LIght of HIS love instead of freak out about who is going into a starbucks to have hot chocolate.

    • Nicole Morgan

      I would have to agree that this is quite an ignorant comment. It is a stretch to say Starbucks merits the “appearance of evil.” Of course they sell coffee, but the gas station also sells alcohol, and it would be absurd to make the same claim in that case. Starbucks also sell pastries, and as you can see, MANY options of drinks that are not restricted by the Word of Wisdom. It’s not a bar. It’s not a strip club. It’s a cafe.

  • This is so great! Now I know what to get when I’m at a Starbucks! My non-LDS friends always could order so quickly when we went to Starbucks, and I just standing there, trying to order from their non-coffee and non-caffeinated menu, taking FOREVER!

  • Stephanie

    You can also get a pumpkin steamer in the fall! Just steamed milk with pumpkin syrup topped with whipped cream and pumpkin spice…so good! Also you can order a “butterbeer” (no coffee). Just google the recipe and tell them and they will make it for you, hot or cold.