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      Mormon Hub Rules - Please be familiar with these rules before posting   04/17/08

        Any views expressed on Mormon Hub are independent of and do not represent the views of Mormon Hub, More Good Foundation, or Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Site Rules 1. Do not post, upload, or otherwise submit anything to the site that is derogatory towards The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, its teachings, or its leaders. Anti-LDS Propaganda will not be tolerated anywhere. 2. Please be conscious of the fact that although Mormon Hub is aimed towards an LDS audience, that the membership of this site consists of friends from an array of different backgrounds, beliefs, and cultures. Please be respectful and courteous to all, and know that everyone who is willing to follow the Rules and Terms of Mormon Hub are welcome to participate and be a member of Mormon Hub. Keep in mind that anything posted, uploaded, or otherwise displayed on the site should be understandable to friends of other faiths as well as to members. Please define any LDS vocabulary that friends of other faiths may not understand (i.e. Mutual, Relief Society, and Deacon.) 3. Personal attacks, name calling, flaming, and judgments against other members will not be tolerated. 4. No bickering and nit-picking toward others. Realize that sometimes it is very difficult to be able to express how one feels through written words. Please be courteous and ask for a further explanation, rather then trying to attack and find holes in someone else's post. 5. No cursing or crude language. Any swearing, including filter skipping, will result in an automatic one week suspension. 6. Posting issues you have with a moderator or administrator anywhere on the site will not be allowed. Please follow the chain of authority if you have any concerns. Any such posts will be removed and the poster will be subject to the consequences of breaking the rules. List of site moderators Course of action that should be taken if you have a concern: - Send a message directly to the moderator you have a concern about. If you are unable to work out the problem then, - Send a message to the head moderators. - If after you have approached both avenues, you may then send a message to Heather; however know that Heather is very unlikely to over rule anything that has been sanctioned by the moderators and head moderators. 7. Multiple accounts are not allowed and will result in all accounts being banned from the site. 8. Please do not share any "true" or "faith promoting" stories, unless you can verify the source. 9. Do not post any copyrighted material, unless the copyright is owned by you. 10. Bigoted/racial/ethnic comments will not be tolerated. Political Neutrality Policy More Good Foundation, as a nonprofit foundation, must remain neutral with respect to partisan politics and candidate campaigns for public office. The foundation encourages its members and staff to be informed about political issues and to be engaged in civic life; however, it does not endorse or oppose any political parties, candidates, or platforms. Mormon Hub will allow political discussion, also long as all posts remain neutral with respect to partisan politics and candidate campaigns for public office. You may not use the site to show support, endorse, oppose or sanction any candidate. In addition, all posts must be respectful and sensitive to readers of all political beliefs and backgrounds. Any post that violates any of the above conditions will be dealt with according to the consequences of breaking the rules. As a non-profit organization, 501©3, we are governed by legal constraints relative to writing, blogging, or otherwise endorsing any candidate running for political office. The law states, in effect, that no one acting on behalf of the nonprofit can intervene directly or indirectly in the election process by endorsing a political candidate. Any post that speaks favorably about one candidate, even in a religious context, can be construed as indirect intervention in the election process. While journalists are presently exempt from this provision, bloggers and forum-members are not. 12. You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this site to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise in violation of any law. 13. You will not use this site to solicit the sale of any product, service or website. You will not use this site to promote a money making venture or contest. If appropriate, you may post a link to your personal website or to your business on your profile, in your forum signature, and you make create one post in the web link section of the forum. Do not post any link or discuss any business, service, or website that violates any rule of Mormon Hub. Mormon Hub is not responsible for the content of any site linked on Mormon Hub. Consequences to these rules could result in the following, and are determined on a case by case basis. Anything that an Administrator or Moderator determines is more than just an infraction of the rules, will result in immediate banning from the site and/or legal action: First infraction will result in a warning and a message from a moderator on what rule was broken. Second infraction will result in a one week suspension followed by a two week moderator post approval Third infraction will result in banned from the site for good. Any topic, message, video, music, image, or other upload or submission to the site that breaks any rules will be deleted. Please remember that we are not responsible for anything posted or uploaded. We do not vouch for or warrant the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any message or upload. We are not responsible for the contents of any message, video, image, post or upload. The messages express the views of the author of the message, not necessarily the views of Mormon Hub , More Good Foundation, or The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Any user who feels that a posted message is objectionable is encouraged to contact the Administration immediately by Private Message, Email, or Report a Post. We will make every effort to remove objectionable messages and uploads within a reasonable time frame, if we determine that removal is necessary. Mormon Hub Terms of Use Agreement January 8, 2008 Mormon Hub is a social networking service that allows Members to create unique personal profiles online in order to find and communicate with old and new friends. Mormon Hub refers to "Mormon Hub or its proprietors." The services offered by Mormon Hub ("Mormon Hub" or "we") include the Mormon Hub website (the "Mormon Hub Website"), the Mormon Hub Internet messaging service, and any other features, content, or applications offered from time to time by Mormon Hub in connection with the Mormon Hub Website (collectively, the "Mormon Hub Services"). The Mormon Hub Services are hosted in the U.S. This Terms of Use Agreement ("Agreement") sets forth the legally binding terms for your use of the Mormon Hub Services. By using the Mormon Hub Services, you agree to be bound by this Agreement, whether you are a "Visitor" (which means that you simply browse the Mormon Hub Website) or you are a "Member" (which means that you have registered with Mormon Hub). The term "User" refers to a Visitor or a Member. You are only authorized to use the Mormon Hub Services (regardless of whether your access or use is intended) if you agree to abide by all applicable laws and to this Agreement. Please read this Agreement carefully and save it. If you do not agree with it, you should leave the Mormon Hub Website and discontinue use of the Mormon Hub Services immediately. If you wish to become a Member, communicate with other Members and make use of the Mormon Hub Services, you must read this Agreement and indicate your acceptance during the Registration process. This Agreement includes Mormon Hub's policy for acceptable use of the Mormon Hub Services and Content posted on the Mormon Hub Website, your rights, obligations and restrictions regarding your use of the Mormon Hub Services and Mormon Hub's Privacy Policy. In order to participate in certain Mormon Hub Services, you may be notified that you are required to download software or content and/or agree to additional terms and conditions. Unless otherwise provided by the additional terms and conditions applicable to the Mormon Hub Services in which you choose to participate, those additional terms are hereby incorporated into this Agreement.  Mormon Hub may modify this Agreement from time to time and such modification shall be effective upon posting by Mormon Hub on the Mormon Hub Website. You agree to be bound to any changes to this Agreement when you use the Mormon Hub Services after any such modification is posted. It is therefore important that you review this Agreement regularly to ensure you are updated as to any changes. Please choose carefully the information you post on Mormon Hub and that you provide to other Users. You may NOT include any of the following information anywhere on Mormon Hub, including private messages: telephone numbers, street addresses, last names, and any photographs containing nudity, or obscene, lewd, excessively violent, harassing, sexually explicit or otherwise objectionable subject matter. Email addresses should NEVER be posted to the general public. Despite this prohibition, information provided by other Mormon Hub Members (for instance, in their Profile) may contain inaccurate, inappropriate, offensive or sexually explicit material, products or services, and Mormon Hub assumes no responsibility or liability for this material. If you become aware of misuse of the Mormon Hub Services by any person, please contact Mormon Hub or click on the "Report Inappropriate Content" link at the bottom of any Mormon Hub page. Mormon Hub reserves the right, in its sole discretion, to moderate, reject, refuse to post or remove any posting (including private messages) by you, or to restrict, suspend, or terminate your access to all or any part of the Mormon Hub Services at any time, for any or no reason, with or without prior notice, and without liability. Mormon Hub expressly reserves the right to remove your profile and/or restrict, suspend, or terminate your access to any part of Mormon Hub Services if Mormon Hub determines, in its sole discretion, that you pose a threat to Mormon Hub and/or its Users. Mormon Hub reserves the right to ask a member to change their username if it is found to be offensive or can be perceived as offensive. Due to the sacredness, this would include any usernames that include, Jesus, Christ, God, Lord, names of Prophets, General authorities etc. The names of personal or business websites, blogs, etc. to promote said sites is also prohibited. Using names of political figures or party affiliation is also prohibited. 1. Eligibility. Use of and Membership in the Mormon Hub Services is void where prohibited. By using the Mormon Hub Services, you represent and warrant that (a) all registration information you submit is truthful and accurate; ( B) you will maintain the accuracy of such information; © you are 14 years of age or older; and (d) your use of the Mormon Hub Services does not violate any applicable law or regulation. Your profile may be deleted and your Membership may be terminated without warning, if we believe that you are under 13 years of age. 2. Term. This Agreement shall remain in full force and effect while you use the Mormon Hub Services or are a Member. You may terminate your Membership at any time, for any reason, emailing an admin. Mormon Hub may terminate your Membership at any time, without warning. Even after Membership is terminated, this Agreement will remain in effect, including sections 5-17. 3. Password. When you sign up to become a Member, you will also be asked to choose a password. You are entirely responsible for maintaining the confidentiality of your password. You agree not to use the account, username, or password of another Member at any time or to disclose your password to any third party. You agree to notify Mormon Hub immediately if you suspect any unauthorized use of your account or access to your password. You are solely responsible for any and all use of your account. 4. Non-commercial Use by Members. The Mormon Hub Services are for the personal use of Members only and may not be used in connection with any commercial endeavors except those that are specifically endorsed or approved by Mormon Hub. Illegal and/or unauthorized use of the Mormon Hub Services, including collecting usernames and/or email addresses of Members by electronic or other means for the purpose of sending unsolicited email or unauthorized framing of or linking to the Mormon Hub Website is prohibited. Commercial advertisements, affiliate links, and other forms of solicitation may be removed from Member profiles without notice and may result in termination of Membership privileges. Appropriate legal action will be taken for any illegal or unauthorized use of the Mormon Hub Services. 5. Proprietary Rights in Content on Mormon Hub. Mormon Hub does not claim any ownership rights in the text, files, images, photos, video, sounds, musical works, works of authorship, or any other materials (collectively, "Content") that you post to the Mormon Hub Services. After posting your Content to the Mormon Hub Services, you continue to retain all ownership rights in such Content, and you continue to have the right to use your Content in any way you choose. By displaying or publishing ("posting") any Content on or through the Mormon Hub Services, you hereby grant to Mormon Hub a limited license to use, modify, publicly perform, publicly display, reproduce, and distribute such Content solely on and through the Mormon Hub Services.
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Mormon Hub assumes no responsibility for monitoring the Mormon Hub Services for inappropriate Content or conduct. If at any time Mormon Hub chooses, in its sole discretion, to monitor the Mormon Hub Services, Mormon Hub nonetheless assumes no responsibility for the Content, no obligation to modify or remove any inappropriate Content, and no responsibility for the conduct of the User submitting any such Content. You are solely responsible for the Content that you post on or through any of the Mormon Hub Services, and any material or information that you transmit to other Members and for your interactions with other Users. Mormon Hub does not endorse and has no control over the Content. Content is not necessarily reviewed by Mormon Hub prior to posting and does not necessarily reflect the opinions or policies of Mormon Hub. Mormon Hub makes no warranties, express or implied, as to the Content or to the accuracy and reliability of the Content or any material or information that you transmit to other Members.   7. Content/Activity Prohibited. The following is a partial list of the kind of Content that is illegal or prohibited to post on or through the Mormon Hub Services.Mormon Hub reserves the right to investigate and take appropriate legal action against anyone who, in Mormon Hub's sole discretion, violates this provision, including without limitation, removing the offending communication from the Mormon Hub Services and terminating the Membership of such violators. Prohibited Content includes, but is not limited to Content that, in the sole discretion of Mormon Hub: is patently offensive and promotes racism, bigotry, hatred or physical harm of any kind against any group or individual; harasses or advocates harassment of another person; exploits people in a sexual or violent manner; contains nudity, violence, or offensive subject matter or contains a link to an adult website; solicits personal information from anyone; provides any telephone numbers, street addresses, last names, URLs or email addresses; promotes information that you know is false or misleading or promotes illegal activities or conduct that is abusive, threatening, obscene, defamatory or libelous; promotes an illegal or unauthorized copy of another person's copyrighted work, such as providing pirated computer programs or links to them, providing information to circumvent manufacture-installed copy-protect devices, or providing pirated music or links to pirated music files; involves the transmission of "junk mail," "chain letters," or unsolicited mass mailing, instant messaging, "spimming," or "spamming"; contains restricted or password only access pages or hidden pages or images (those not linked to or from another accessible page); furthers or promotes any criminal activity or enterprise or provides instructional information about illegal activities including, but not limited to making or buying illegal weapons, violating someone's privacy, or providing or creating computer viruses; solicits passwords or personal identifying information for commercial or unlawful purposes from other Users; involves commercial activities and/or sales without our prior written consent such as contests, sweepstakes, barter, advertising, or pyramid schemes; includes a photograph of another person that you have posted without that person's consent; or uses sexually suggestive imagery or any other unfair, misleading or deceptive Content intended to draw traffic to the profile.
      The following is a partial list of the kind of activity that is illegal or prohibited on the Mormon Hub Website and through your use of the Mormon Hub Services. Mormon Hub reserves the right to investigate and take appropriate legal action against anyone who, in Mormon Hub's sole discretion, violates this provision, including without limitation, reporting you to law enforcement authorities. Prohibited activity includes, but is not limited to: criminal or tortuous activity, including child pornography, fraud, trafficking in obscene material, drug dealing, gambling, harassment, stalking, spamming, spimming, sending of viruses or other harmful files, copyright infringement, patent infringement, or theft of trade secrets; advertising to, or solicitation of, any Member to buy or sell any products or services through the Mormon Hub Services. You may not transmit any chain letters or junk email to other Members. It is also a violation of these rules to use any information obtained from the Mormon Hub Services in order to contact, advertise to, solicit, or sell to any Member without their prior explicit consent. In order to protect our Members from such advertising or solicitation, Mormon Hub reserves the right to restrict the number of emails which a Member may send to other Members in any 24-hour period to a number which Mormon Hub deems appropriate in its sole discretion. If you breach this Agreement and send unsolicited bulk email, instant messages or other unsolicited communications of any kind through the Mormon Hub Services, you acknowledge that you will have caused substantial harm to Mormon Hub, but that the amount of such harm would be extremely difficult to ascertain. As a reasonable estimation of such harm, you agree to pay Mormon Hub $50 for each such unsolicited email or other unsolicited communication you send through the Mormon Hub Services; covering or obscuring the banner advertisements on your personal profile page, or any Mormon Hub page via HTML/CSS or any other means; any automated use of the system, such as using scripts to add friends or send comments or messages; interfering with, disrupting, or creating an undue burden on the Mormon Hub Services or the networks or services connected to the Mormon Hub Services; attempting to impersonate another Member or person; copying the code for your Mormon Hub Player and embedding it into other profiles or asking other Members to embed it into their profiles; using the account, username, or password of another Member at any time or disclosing your password to any third party or permitting any third party to access your account; selling or otherwise transferring your profile; using any information obtained from the Mormon Hub Services in order to harass, abuse, or harm another person; displaying an advertisement on your profile, or accepting payment or anything of value from a third person in exchange for your performing any commercial activity on or through the Mormon Hub Services on behalf of that person, such as placing commercial content on your profile, posting blogs or bulletins with a commercial purpose, selecting a profile with a commercial purpose as one of your "Top" friends, or sending private messages with a commercial purpose; or using the Mormon Hub Services in a manner inconsistent with any and all applicable laws and regulations.   8. 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Without limiting the foregoing, if you believe that your work has been copied and posted on the Mormon Hub Services in a way that constitutes copyright infringement, please provide our Copyright Agent with the following information: (i) an electronic or physical signature of the person authorized to act on behalf of the owner of the copyright interest; (ii) a description of the copyrighted work that you claim has been infringed; (iii) a description of where the material that you claim is infringing is located on the Mormon Hub Services; (iv) your address, telephone number, and email address; (v) a written statement by you that you have a good faith belief that the disputed use is not authorized by the copyright owner, its agent, or the law; (vi) a statement by you, made under penalty of perjury, that the above information in your notice is accurate and that you are the copyright owner or authorized to act on the copyright owner's behalf. 9. Member Disputes. 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      IMPORTANT!! -- Login Issues   09/12/17

      TL;DR; In order to fix login issues, a lot of people will have to reset their password. As of now, if you are unable to login, please attempt a "Forgot Password"/"Password Reset" (check your spam folder) and if that doesn't work then feel free to Contact Us, for help and please check back on this post for any status updates and FAQs as we go through this process. FAQ:
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      Firstly, I'd like to apologize on behalf of MormonHub for the frustration of the login system. There is a lot of cool things we could do with the login system, and having the logins synced up between our forum system and our front end system has been nice, but for multiple reasons (not just the current login issues), we have decided to move back to the earlier login system. While I would love to be able to migrate everyone's current passwords back, but the systems are just not compatible that way. So a large number of users will need to do a password reset. We realize that we forced everyone to do this on the move to the new system, and we sincerely apologize to everyone that will have to do it again. The Login System has now been swapped over. Give us a little bit of time to work out kinks in the system (will post updates here). If you are unable to login anymore, then please perform a password reset (check spam folder) and if that fails and we don't have any acknowledgement of problems on this post (No known problems at this time), then feel free to contact us (keeping in mind that there are a lot of you and very few of us).

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  2. The Meaning of Atonement

    The issue for me isn't whether the righteous would be eating, but whether they would be eating literally or figuratively. I don't know how many righteous people there will be in "heaven," but if it is anywhere near a million, then one can only imagine the size of the tree were they all literally partaking of the fruit. Who knows? Thanks, -Wade Englund-
  3. The Meaning of Atonement

    Out of interest, I wondered what would happen were I to do an English to Hebrew translation of the words "paradise" and "garden." I don't know Hebrew, so I can't speak with any authority about the results, but I found it more than a little instructive. Here are the results: Apart from the first two characters being the same (read from right to left), If I am not mistaken, the name "Garden of Eden" could also be translated as "Garden of Paradise". Thanks, -Wade Englund-
  4. The Meaning of Atonement

    A couple references do indeed state the righteous in heaven will be eating from the tree of life.
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    The word "paradise" is quite vague. It really cant be nailed down to an exact meaning. I cant find any scripture reference at all that refers to the garden as the paradise of God. There are scriptures that equate or define paradise as the world of spirits and also the celedtial kingdom. Its just too vague, nothing really to go off of.
  6. The Meaning of Atonement

    You don't see any conceptual similarity, if not sameness, between "paradise" and "garden"? Thanks, -Wade Englund
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  8. Some comments: #1 When we speak of the term “rest” as it relates to the Sabbath – it is the same rest of G-d that is defined by the “next” step of our progression into eternal life. When we are resurrected we “rest” from our mortal labors. #2 To know G-d is the know the order of things, both that which is spiritual and that which is physical – Science is the study of the order and laws the govern that which is physical. Science is part of knowing G-d. #3. Jesus is the example of divine order. #4. Mortal man is nothing – it is only through the glory of the plan of salvation that man becomes something of value – both physically and spiritually. #5. Science defines the physical laws. But it is by the spirit we learn the spiritual laws, ordinances and covenants of salvation. I submit that it is also by the spirit that we understand that the physicals laws of science also teach of us G-d. The Traveler
  9. The Meaning of Atonement

    I don't know that they will be literally eating from it following the resurrection. Thanks, -Wade Englund-
  10. All the Single Ladies

    I read this right after I read the first post President Nelson's wrote on Facebook as President , I found it interesting that he specifically addresses the women of the church "My dear friends, we are thankful for the prayers that have been offered for us. As I said yesterday, I declare my devotion to God our Eternal Father and to His Son, Jesus Christ. I know Them, love Them, and pledge to serve Them—and you—with every remaining breath of my life. Now, whatever your concerns, whatever your challenges, I wish to assure you that there is a place for you in this, the Lord’s Church. Our Father in Heaven cherishes His children and wants each of us to return home to Him. To women, I say: whatever your calling, whatever your circumstances, we need your impressions, your insights, and your inspiration. We need your strength! To you who are young, please know that you were born for this time. You are a chosen generation, fore-determined by God to do a remarkable work—to help prepare the people of this world for the Second Coming of the Lord. We need your strength and faith. To anyone who finds themselves in unideal circumstances, to anyone who is struggling with doubts or fears, to anyone who has stepped off the path, I invite you, with all the hope in my heart, to stay on the path. Together, we can walk the covenant path. We must look forward to the future with complete faith in our Lord Jesus Christ, whose Church this is"
  11. The Meaning of Atonement

    Perhaps I will go out on a limb a little here and suggest that scriptures, as many think of scriptures, are not as accurate as many think. The reason I suggest this possibility is because many think of the scriptures as defining doctrine. Which is only partly true and only partly accurate. Scriptures and the church (kingdom of G-d and appointed and ordained leaders – including priesthood keys) together define three aspects or parts of the Plan of Salvation as applied to our mortal probation. First of the parts are the Laws of Salvation, part two are the Ordinances of Salvation and part three are the covenants of Salvation. Doctrines are vague and only explain (line upon line upon line and precept upon precept upon precept) what is needed in order to receive the laws, ordinances and covenants of salvation. The scriptures and prophets are all useless unless one lives (obeys) the laws of salvation, receives the ordinances of salvation and keeps the covenants of salvation. Being obedient to the laws are paramount. It is through scriptures and the prophets that we are introduced to the law but it is only by the spirit that the laws are made complete (or as stated in scripture – perfect). Thus, there is the letter of the law and the spirit of the law – there is not a letter and spirit of doctrine. Also, it is the law that we learn line upon line upon line and precept upon precept upon precept – though many seem to think it is doctrine that is learned. At least it appears to me most think of salvation in terms of doctrine and believing correct doctrine. I will make one more statement – That is the Jesus is the law giver and salvation of glory comes from obedience to the laws Jesus provides. One little example: Repentance is a law or as some would say a principle of the law – and there is an associated ordinance to repentance with a covenant. What we consider the doctrine of repentance is only a help to understand the law that we may be obedient the ordinance that we establish the covenant by which we live the law. The doctrine of repentance is meaningless and of no value or use unless the ordinance is established and the covenant unbroken. I will submit the thought that to participate in the ordinance of repentance is in part what is meant by partaking of the fruit of the Tree of Life. The Traveler
  12. Hi and thank you in advance for your advice. I'll try to keep this short. My wife and I have been married for 8 years. For most of our marriage, my wife has been a member with one foot out the door. She finally officially left the Church 3 weeks ago. I was expecting this for some time but it has been about 1000 times harder than I thought it would be. Mainly because of our kids. We have 4, the two older ones are my step kids. When she left, we agreed to alternate each Sunday taking the kids to our respective churches. We also agreed to be respectful and not bad-mouth the others' beliefs with the kids, but to focus on the things we have in common. I should mention that she is now evangelical and is VERY fundamental in her view of the Bible. Our marriage has been full of struggle other than our religious differences. She had a very traumatic past, and this has had an impact on our marriage. I won't go into the details, but in addition to all the other issues, I now see her trying to lead our children away from the Church. Our oldest expressed an interest in getting his Patriarchal blessing and twice mentioned he thought the LDS Church was true just in the last few weeks. He has now completely changed his tune and even got baptized in my wife's church (he is 18 btw). I didn't meet him until he was 10, and him being my step-son he tends to lean more toward his mom with personal issues. We agreed not to try to bad mouth the others' beliefs but she has not held up to her end of the bargain. She has come behind me, contradicting what I try and teach him about the LDS Church. I am starting to seriously consider divorce. We already had a separation for about 6 months a year ago but decided to try again. We were sealed 4 years ago, although she has never worn her garments since and I don't believe she takes that covenant seriously. Her leading our kids away was the final straw. I'm so confused as to my next move. Please offer any thoughts. For what it's worth my testimony is rock-solid and trying to help my wife find answers to all her many questions over the years has only helped strengthen it. It makes it that much harder to see my kids being slowly turned away. I do my best to help their testimonies but I don't want to get in a tug-of-war situation with them. I feel helpless. I can offer more details if necessary, but like I said I'm trying to keep this short.
  13. What’s the last movie you watched?

    I haven't seen it, so I honestly don't know.
  14. What’s the last movie you watched?

    The best commentary I have ever watched was the Stuart Little movie. They showed how they filmed the various scenes. The lead woman, Melanie Griffins spent a lot of time with a bag of flour rather than a baby. The explained all the green screen techniques. How they used iconic NYC buildings. Very interesting.
  15. What’s the last movie you watched?

    Heh - Veggie Tales Jonah commentaries. Most hilarious 90 minutes I ever spent. Those people are genius adlibbers, mixed with a healthy dose of ADHD and sped up voices. My sides hurt for days. They talked nonstop the entire time. About every 15 minutes they'd notice they were supposed to be commenting on a movie, and get back on track. Little known fact: You have to be careful with underwear jokes, "because if you go to far, you lose the church crowd".
  16. What’s the last movie you watched?

    I love the commentaries. Some of the best are the Lord of the Rings with the cast members. Dominic Monaghan and Billy Boyd (Merry and Pippin) are simply hilarious.
  17. The Meaning of Atonement

    Aye. I dont see myself as readily dismissing prophet commentary. The problem is that their opinions are no different than yours or mine or Wades, or John doe down the street. Even though ten different apostles opinions may varry the scriptures themselves are not as prone to that problem. Thats why I refer to the scriptures almost exclusively. We know certain aspects that are pretty sound. Here are some of them- 1. Before the fall there was no death, Adam and Eve could have lived forever. 2. The terrestrial glory of the earth during Christs reign (millennium) includes death. 3. Partaking of The tree of life gives eternal life. 4. Eternal life is given to the righteous at the end of the millennium after resurrection and judgement. 5. The second death for the wicked and unrepentant begins after resurrection and judgement at the end of the millennium. 6. The names of the righteous written in heaven are those of the celestial world. 7. Only those whose names are written in heaven are admitted into the holy city spoken of in Revelations where the tree of life is and also the very throne of God and the Lamb are located. 8. There is a specific "gate" through which heirs enter into the celestial kingdom and the streets tgerein appear to be paved with gold. This kind of information helps me to understand which phase of the earth the scriptures speak of. There really isnt no scripture reference that I have found that thus place either access to the tree of life on the earth during the millennium or that the glory of the earth during that 1000 years is the same glory the earth had after it was created but before the fall.
  18. An Error I Keep Making

    But if you do, wash them down with Tide pods.
  19. An Error I Keep Making

    I begged my dad for a Commodore 128. I felt utterly superior, even though my buddy and I couldn't see that it really did anything different from the 64 at all. Don't tell anyone, but I had a program that would autodial internet access ports and hack codes. It let me get free long distance. Which allowed me to call bulletin boards in other states without paying long distance charges. Ah, my early teens. Internet fraud at 1200 baud. Don't do drugs, kids.
  20. An Error I Keep Making

    A commodore 64. I think we may have had one for the kids waaay back when. I always get confused between that and the intellivision and the Atari that were going around.
  21. Geddy's voice live has taken a serious downturn in the mid to later stages of a tour. He could still sound good in the studio. Less stress on his vocal chords. Same with Neil and Alex's physical ailments and the demands of touring and performing live. I think Rush, if the desire and interest existed, could still churn out several more quality studio albums.
  22. An Error I Keep Making

    My dad taught me how to type on a Commodore 64. In 6th grade we had to take a typing class, and the teacher gave me an F a few weeks in a row because I didn't keep my fingers on home row. I told her, "Tell you what, you let me type my way and I'll be the fastest typer in the class without errors. I'll even type faster than you." She tested me. I won. I got an A, and she kept her mouth shut the entire semester.
  23. The Meaning of Atonement

    That was what I was going to try to get to. The verses I sent speak to both but I did not lay out the discussion well as I am returning to work after vacation and I have too much to get caught up on for today. Maybe this evening or tomorrow we can flush this out. That is one of the reasons I think you dismiss prophetic observations far too readily as there is commentary on all aspects of these points as you make them above and they are clear to understand...again perhaps tomorrow...
  24. Yesterday
  25. An Error I Keep Making

    I already can type 80 to 100 words a minute. I could hit at least 60 words on those old typewriters...believe it or not...at least back when they tested us in typing classes many decades ago...
  26. @mirkwood, you raise a good question I think. You and I are both huge music fans, it's one of the reasons we get along so well. Is it worth it for a band to keep on going even after they've "lost it"? This might shock you in particular, but I think Kiss needed to retire three years ago. Paul Stanleys voice is shot. It's sad to listen to. I wouldn't go see them even though I'm a big fan. I don't think they'll release anymore albums, either. Is it better to call it a day and move on or risk tarnishing their legacy and alienating their fans?
  27. There is no Rush without all three. Rush is probably retired, against Geddy's wishes. I hold out hope for more studio albums even without tours.
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