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      Mormon Hub Rules - Please be familiar with these rules before posting   04/17/08

        Any views expressed on Mormon Hub are independent of and do not represent the views of Mormon Hub, More Good Foundation, or Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Site Rules 1. Do not post, upload, or otherwise submit anything to the site that is derogatory towards The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, its teachings, or its leaders. Anti-LDS Propaganda will not be tolerated anywhere. 2. Please be conscious of the fact that although Mormon Hub is aimed towards an LDS audience, that the membership of this site consists of friends from an array of different backgrounds, beliefs, and cultures. Please be respectful and courteous to all, and know that everyone who is willing to follow the Rules and Terms of Mormon Hub are welcome to participate and be a member of Mormon Hub. Keep in mind that anything posted, uploaded, or otherwise displayed on the site should be understandable to friends of other faiths as well as to members. 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The foundation encourages its members and staff to be informed about political issues and to be engaged in civic life; however, it does not endorse or oppose any political parties, candidates, or platforms. Mormon Hub will allow political discussion, also long as all posts remain neutral with respect to partisan politics and candidate campaigns for public office. You may not use the site to show support, endorse, oppose or sanction any candidate. In addition, all posts must be respectful and sensitive to readers of all political beliefs and backgrounds. Any post that violates any of the above conditions will be dealt with according to the consequences of breaking the rules. As a non-profit organization, 501©3, we are governed by legal constraints relative to writing, blogging, or otherwise endorsing any candidate running for political office. 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      IMPORTANT!! -- Login Issues   09/12/17

      TL;DR; In order to fix login issues, a lot of people will have to reset their password. As of now, if you are unable to login, please attempt a "Forgot Password"/"Password Reset" (check your spam folder) and if that doesn't work then feel free to Contact Us, for help and please check back on this post for any status updates and FAQs as we go through this process. FAQ:
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      Firstly, I'd like to apologize on behalf of MormonHub for the frustration of the login system. There is a lot of cool things we could do with the login system, and having the logins synced up between our forum system and our front end system has been nice, but for multiple reasons (not just the current login issues), we have decided to move back to the earlier login system. While I would love to be able to migrate everyone's current passwords back, but the systems are just not compatible that way. So a large number of users will need to do a password reset. We realize that we forced everyone to do this on the move to the new system, and we sincerely apologize to everyone that will have to do it again. The Login System has now been swapped over. Give us a little bit of time to work out kinks in the system (will post updates here). If you are unable to login anymore, then please perform a password reset (check spam folder) and if that fails and we don't have any acknowledgement of problems on this post (No known problems at this time), then feel free to contact us (keeping in mind that there are a lot of you and very few of us).

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  2. Only in the Philippines?

    Neat pictures! i have a colleague who spent a couple years as an ex-pat in Manila. He enjoyed it. Very nice and friendly people. Only moved back because his wife wasn't compatible with the weather.
  3. Missionaries

    Well yes, I must agree, but I think that's only a very small part of the whole problem. However, recognition and acceptance are small steps towards recovery
  4. Missionaries

    I hope she serves another mission and gets assigned to the Sydney, Australia Mission. And I think that many, perhaps most, of the LDS members of this forum know exactly what you are talking about and may well have had similar experiences at some point in their lives. Thanks for your honesty in sharing this.
  5. I thought I was pretty clear when I asked: Where in any official account of the actual events does it even say that the manager or the police acted because of race? OK. Maybe each of us is thinking the topic is different than the other does. I think the issue is about whether or not two men violated any laws or rules of conduct for any American citizen in similar circumstances that would have warranted a call to the police and subsequent arrest. You seem to think the topic is about racial perceptions/inequality/bigotry. If so, we're not even talking about the same thing. Well, it looks like you've got it all figured out. Apparently all Trump supporters are are white bigots who don't understand the plight of the minority and all Never-Trumpers are all minorities who care about the downtrodden minority. I don't believe we have all the facts. You could be right. If we have insufficient facts I certainly can't say you're wrong. But I tend not to rush to judgment until I have more facts than are currently being told to the public. Several statements from police don't match up to what the two trespassers have been spreading all over the news. But the media isn't interested in hearing anyone else who may contradict what these men said. I'm just wondering why no one has asked for the Starbucks surveillance video. I'm wondering if the person who called the police was such a bigot, why did she not get fired. Things don't add up. And when things don't add up, I tend to think there's something we're missing from the common narrative. But you can feel free to go about thinking you've got it all figured out after hearing only one side of the story. Notice that all the other testimony that you mentioned was from people who were only aware of anything once the police arrived. There is nothing that says anything else about what happened prior to the police arrival.
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  8. Not to detract, but I'm going to have to disagree with the definition of pre-history stated above. Pre-history, simply put, is what occurred before written history. Or, in otherwords, events that occurred before written history. Human pre-history takes place somewhere between 3 million to 3 and half million years ago and the invention and when useful historical records can be found. This varies from culture to culture. For the European areas of Greece and Italy, I believe you are correct, but in regards to the Fertile Crescent and Egypt this occurred far earlier (around 3000 BC as a very rough approximation). Anyways, continue on, just wanted to add my thoughts on this pre-history definition you placed above.
  9. Missionaries

    Yep. That's how it goes. Folks think we're nuts. I am nuts, but that's a whole separate issue.
  10. "He That Shall Endure unto the End, the Same Shall Be Saved" https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2018/04/he-that-shall-endure-unto-the-end-the-same-shall-be-saved?lang=eng I agree with @Lost Boy, find time to listen to the entire conference....over and over again.
  11. Missionaries

    If someone had told me this exact story a year ago I'd think they were a nutjob. Overly religious.
  12. Missionaries

    Sounds like something one of those dang Mormons would say. (Seriously, doesn't sound odd to me at all, so yeah, we (or some of us) know what you're talking about.)
  13. For those who are curious, though I know some despise Snopes, Snopes has more on it (as per snopes, it wasn't the manager but a barista that called, so an employee, but not necessarily the manager) including the video of the police engagement and the arrival of the individual the men were supposed to meet at starbucks and the subsequent ignoring of the white individual and arrest of the black men. Snopes philadelphia starbucks arrest
  14. "The Greatest Showman" Watched it with my wife, it was actually pretty good.
  15. Repentance after death

    I contend that canonized scripture is the word of God and constrained by eternal truth and not by Webster's dictionary. I further contend that God knows that His kingdoms of glory below the Celestial Kingdom are a form of damnation, that He has repeatedly revealed the same to prophets and apostles in plain wording over the course of His line-upon-line revelation to us. I further contend that denying these teachings and promoting the denial of these teachings is harmful to the church and to the salvation of souls. I'm really not interested in a "no...you're stupid" -- "no...you're stupid" -- "no...you're stupid" childish game, to which I can really only reply, grow up and deal with the topic at hand..., which is whether Joseph was constrained by Websters. but I expect that point will have no impact. C'est la vie. Name call away. It doesn't change what our living prophets and apostles have taught, continue to teach, and will teach, despite your best efforts to prove they are wrong.
  16. ?? I'm not sure what you are stating. The articles were directly related to the topic on hand and the different reactions of people to it...so I'm not sure why you stated what you did. It went into detail the vast differences between the perceptions of the whites vs. everyone else in America. Now, not in the articles, but myriads of new articles around the web there IS a timeline that's been put out there...Supposedly... The young gentlemen gave their statements and on the film ironically their appointment actually finally showed up when the police did. The appointment (a businessman) tried to actually convince the police that they had made an appointment there. The video was posted by another person and had started making the rounds that evening. The guys were in jail and were unaware of the filming of it. They found out about it when they called to set another appointment with the individual they were supposed to meet with originally...and that individual informed them. If this was a "staged" event we'd probably have heard of a civil lawsuit suing starbucks already...but as far as I am aware of at this time, they haven't even filed a lawsuit. I do not know the timeline, but some people supposedly that were there (supposedly including the one that did the filming) said that the men came in originally very casually dressed. One asked to use the restroom and were told it was for paying customers only. Some indicated that they had waterjugs on them. They informed the Starbucks that they were there waiting for another person to meet them for a meeting. After around 5 or 6 minutes they were told to leave. At the time, other individuals who had been there for several hours (up to three hours) but were white and had not bought anything recently were NOT asked to leave or asked to do anything in that manner. Back to articles I posted... Original articles indicated it was a manager that called, but apparently it is not as clear as that now. What does seem clear is that there is a difference on how whites and those who are affluent (and especially Trump supporters interestingly enough) vs. those who are black or Hispanic (or were Clinton supporters). The other article actually addresses several others situations similar to Starbucks, but some of those are much more clear in the discrimination (as is Huffington posts way of doing things in it's very LIBERAL style of reporting) against the minorities, but it shows in the Huffington Posts view a clear systematic violation of human rights in favor of discrimination in that article...which also raises some interesting questions in regards to the events at Starbucks that could be had between those who are liberal and those that are conservative. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I suppose if we want to compare it similarly, is if you, as an Asian American had gone to a McDonalds. You were waiting for your wife to come with your kids. You needed to go to the restroom but the employees told you that you could not go unless you bought something. You sit down, obviously NOT buying anything yet. You are still waiting for your wife to get there with your kids. There are some people eating, but many others who are not Asian Americans who have no food or anything of Mcdonalds near them that were there before you. They are using the free Wi-Fi of Mcdonalds. So, the manager comes up to you and says you need to leave within a few minutes of you sitting down. You try to tell them that your wife is meeting you here with your kids. If you leave, your wife may be surprised why you would just leave without telling her. Instead of waiting longer, someone calls the police (possibly one of those even that didn't have any food but was sitting there for hours using the Wi-Fi ironically). The police come and say they are going to remove you. Then your wife DOES arrive. She says that you were actually waiting for her and if you and her could get together. She'll even buy something. The police talk politely to her but say that they now have to arrest you. At this point, do you protest because you do not see why you need to be arrested (which is what these young men did). If you do that, it will be seen as being disorderly on top of being arrested. Do you think this is fair to you? No one who was white was asked to leave, even though they were using the Wi-Fi (you were not) and had been there longer than you without anything on their tables. In addition, your wife was not arrested (I assume she is white), just you. Perhaps you do not see the problem with this...and many Americans do not. On the otherhand, many minorities state that this type of action happens to minorities every day (especially those who are black or Hispanic) and see this as a pattern of behavior. There are several different veiwpoints on the matter. Some may view it that you got what you deserved. You obviously were the cause of the problem. Others may view it as a one time incident. Others may view it that seeing how you were singled out, it was discrimination. The question then, that the polls arise is that there seems to be a divide between how one segment of the US population perceives such incidents vs. that of other segments of the US population.
  17. Missionaries

    It feels really odd to say that. I'm assuming you guys know what I'm talking about. Either that or I'm just really odd. This can't be something only I have experienced.
  18. Nothing beats a good laptop and HDMI cable. Often people show up unprepared to teach, it can really detract from the spirit. We as leaders/teachers need to remember to teach to the audio, visual, and kinesthetic learner...not every one in the EQ or class is the same. Here are some ideas I have had or used: - Print off pictures and let the group talk about how it makes them feel - Use short video clips (nothing longer than a couple of mins) - Activities they/some can do that relate to the topic being taught Oddly enough all of this can be accomplished with their smart phones, TV, or perhaps something you bring from home.
  19. Repentance after death

    Im just kind of sitting back and watching how stupid works. Keep it up.
  20. Missionaries

    It was the family of the primary online missionary. She's an old soul. She is so in touch with the Spirit that her words just touched me to the core. She always knew what to say and when to say it. She explained things in ways no other person could. Every issue I had she overcame. She bluntly called me out when I was being dumb or stubborn. She was patient when I was asking blunt questions. She never gave up on me. I believe with all my heart I must have known her beyond the veil. The connection was immediate and she spoke to me in a manner no other missionary did. It was like we were old friends. Maybe I would have joined the church without her. Maybe not. But I doubt I'd be a member today without her. She was divine design, without a doubt.
  21. Repentance after death

    Do you really believe this sort of this has any effect? Like I'm going to think, "Oh no...he implied I'm the peanut gallery! I'm so ashamed." Or, "Ah man...that random guy on the internet trying to convince people the teachings of the church are wrong thinks I'm a fool. Woe is me. How will I ever bear it!?"
  22. Lakers

    Yeah Utah beat my boys too much this year
  23. Thank-you. i'm on the poor side of asking good questions, and off the charts negative on my ability to answer good questions like the ones you posed . i hear you, though. i ping-pong between confusion, compassion, and cynicism about racism in America. i think all i can say for sure is that i wish our society were not quite so dog-eat-dog . i am not sure we're engineered to systematically oppress any race (at least that i see) - but i think it's very hard to break out of grinding poverty that many people of Color have had passed down onto them through the generations. And really, that's as true outside the race bubble as inside of it. And don't mistake - i have no illusions about what happens when governments attempt to engineer equality of outcome, or exchange the Darwinian practicalities of capitalism for the beautiful but corrupting theories of socialism. Sigh. Honestly, any time i attempt to state what will work for society as a whole, anything i say appears, even to me, so riddled with contradictions that i usually end up saying nothing at all - at least when i am wise. i guess i just have to work on the problems in my own environment. For me, that seems like doing a lot of listening to people of Color, asking some gentle questions, and trying to help those without access to the formal education they need to break the poverty cycle find it.
  24. Repentance after death

    Yeah, thanks for the idle commentary from the peanut gallery. I highlighted the 1828 dictionary to explain how the words were commonly used in the early 1800's in America. (BTW, sometimes its better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt)
  25. Missionaries

    I recall that you found a lot of support from the over-the-phone missionaries. Was this one of those, or are they the parents of one of your face-to-face missionaries? And I can't remember if you have already shared this, but what was it, in the end, that made the difference? What did this missionary do that changed your life?
  26. Repentance after death

    Ah yes. That's right....Joseph translated the Book of Mormon from Websters. And I believe he used it exclusively in his revelations too. Yes. That's the pattern we learned. Use your brain like Rob does to work things out according to what Websters tells us and then you'll know truth. I believe that is in the D&C now that you mention it.
  27. Repentance after death

    Where do you think the people in Josephs day got their definitions and understandings?
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