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      Mormon Hub Rules - Please be familiar with these rules before posting   04/17/08

      Any views expressed on Mormon Hub are independent of and do not represent the views of Mormon Hub, More Good Foundation, or Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Site Rules 1. Do not post, upload, or otherwise submit anything to the site that is derogatory towards The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, its teachings, or its leaders. Anti-LDS Propaganda will not be tolerated anywhere. 2. Please be conscious of the fact that although Mormon Hub is aimed towards an LDS audience, that the membership of this site consists of friends from an array of different backgrounds, beliefs, and cultures. Please be respectful and courteous to all, and know that everyone who is willing to follow the Rules and Terms of Mormon Hub are welcome to participate and be a member of Mormon Hub. Keep in mind that anything posted, uploaded, or otherwise displayed on the site should be understandable to friends of other faiths as well as to members. Please define any LDS vocabulary that friends of other faiths may not understand (i.e. Mutual, Relief Society, and Deacon.) 3. Personal attacks, name calling, flaming, and judgments against other members will not be tolerated. 4. No bickering and nit-picking toward others. Realize that sometimes it is very difficult to be able to express how one feels through written words. Please be courteous and ask for a further explanation, rather then trying to attack and find holes in someone else's post. 5. No cursing or crude language. Any swearing, including filter skipping, will result in an automatic one week suspension. 6. Posting issues you have with a moderator or administrator anywhere on the site will not be allowed. Please follow the chain of authority if you have any concerns. Any such posts will be removed and the poster will be subject to the consequences of breaking the rules. 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The foundation encourages its members and staff to be informed about political issues and to be engaged in civic life; however, it does not endorse or oppose any political parties, candidates, or platforms. Mormon Hub will allow political discussion, also long as all posts remain neutral with respect to partisan politics and candidate campaigns for public office. You may not use the site to show support, endorse, oppose or sanction any candidate. In addition, all posts must be respectful and sensitive to readers of all political beliefs and backgrounds. Any post that violates any of the above conditions will be dealt with according to the consequences of breaking the rules. As a non-profit organization, 501©3, we are governed by legal constraints relative to writing, blogging, or otherwise endorsing any candidate running for political office. The law states, in effect, that no one acting on behalf of the nonprofit can intervene directly or indirectly in the election process by endorsing a political candidate. Any post that speaks favorably about one candidate, even in a religious context, can be construed as indirect intervention in the election process. While journalists are presently exempt from this provision, bloggers and forum-members are not. 12. You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this site to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise in violation of any law. 13. You will not use this site to solicit the sale of any product, service or website. You will not use this site to promote a money making venture or contest. 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  1. Dear Little Linda's mom, Thanks for your note. I love having Little Linda as a student and I think she's a great kid. I understand your feelings and respect that you want to feed your daughter healthy foods. However, I'm her teacher, not her mother, and it would be both inappropriate and against school policy for me to bring her snacks. But feel free to send Little Linda to school with her snacks; she will be allowed to eat them at lunchtime and at other appropriate times during the day. If you want the school to provide food for Little Linda, the school lunch program is the way the school discharges that duty. My understanding is that the school lunches are nutritious and pleasant. If you have concerns about them, please feel free to discuss that with the administration. The principal can be reached at 987-654-3210, and by email at [email protected] Thanks, Little Linda's teacher
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  2. We are free to decline extensive processes or procedures that only serve to preserve life at any cost. A couple I home teach had a sister who developed a condition that required such procedures. Basically, she had to have her blood changed 3 times a week. It would have been expensive and painful. She declined to begin those procedures, and died shortly after. We figure that was an appropriate decision. "Pulling the plug"-type decisions aren't murder. Administering injections or taking a pill that ceases the functions of life, well, the law may or may not call it murder, but we oughtn't to such things.
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  3. I agree with you there is a problem, and this behavior is not Christ-like. I don't think the Dear John letters are the problem, though. I think they are a symptom. The real problem is getting too serious when you are too young. This goes double when a mission is on the horizon. Almost everyone would be much better off waiting until after a mission is over before getting into these types of relationships. If people would just follow this guideline, we wouldn't have the type of heartache you describe. (I understand talking about marriage at age 18 works for some people. But let's face it - it is a mistake for the vast majority.)
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  4. @Lilyflowers88, there are two issues at play here. ISSUE #1: How the YW leaders handled this situation They handled it very poorly. The YW leaders, in seeking not to embarrass your daughter, blindsided her instead. Worse yet, they actually circumvented your authority. I expect they had only the best of intentions, so I'm not ready to condemn them for their foolish actions. But there is no doubt what they did was inappropriate. Your daughter's recounting of the "confrontation" was almost harrowing, but reading between the lines, I sense that they were really trying to allow her to save face in front of you while still trying to impress upon her just how unwise her actions were. Their thanks for her efforts to "reactivate" her friend while simultaneously telling her not to see the friend any more for a while suggests that they really did have good intentions, and were trying to look out for her welfare. Still, their actions were hamfisted and inappropriate. What do you do about it? I would start by talking with the leaders directly. Be as kind as you can muster, but let them know that doing an end-around on you was wrong. If they have a problem with your daughter's actions outside of Church, they should consult with you. And yes, I do think you should let the bishop know, though not in some offical register-a-complaint way. Just a "By the way, Bishop, this unpleasant thing happened that I think you should know about." ISSUE #2: What your daughter actually did From your description, it sounds to me like there was nothing immoral about your daughter's actions per se. But I agree with the gist of what the YW leaders said: It was unwise and inappropriate. When you have videos of girls in showers or bathtubs, that implies nudity. Wearing swim suits may cover the nudity, but not the implication. Consider: Why did they do a video in a BATHTUB? And why in SWIMSUITS? Why not in Levi's and parkas? Obviously, it was a big joke about a "bathtub video" that didn't show any actual nudity. Seriously, is it a normal thing in 21st-century America for young women to sit together in a bathtub in their swimsuits while they chat and listen to music? A hot tub, maybe. But a bathtub? I don't know, but that sounds plenty weird to me. If my teenage daughter were in the habit of sitting with a friend in a bathtub, I would tell her I thought it was inappropriate and a bad idea. If she were making videos of said bathtub adventures, that increases the weirdness quotient tenfold. No way would I ever allow her to publish such things to social media. yjacket is pretty much spot on in this area. However poorly the YW leaders handled this, not only was their heart (probably) in the right place, but what they were attempting to accomplish (poorly and outside of how they should have approached it) was probably what should happen. Your daughter needs guidance. She needs to be told that some things are not wise. She needs boundaries. You, her mother, should set those. This is where the YW leaders messed up; they should have gone to you, and YOU should have had that talk with your daughter, not them.
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  5. I've known this for a while now - ever since wife and daughters started doing 4H and having chickens and turkeys and stuff. I noticed the young flock of turkeys would run across a yard to see something, looking and sounding exactly like the velociraptors from Jurassic Park. And looking into a chicken's eyes, you can see an ancient rage, as if chickens realize they used to be top of the pecking order a few million years ago, until it was all ripped away from them by meteoric chance, and now they live these ridiculous and offensive short lives of subservience to a bunch of hairless apes who eat them. It's in their eyes. They don't like what evolution has dealt them, and they are just inches away from launching a global chicken revolution and regaining their former glory, but then they get trapped by a straight piece of fence or something, and can't make it to the last meeting.
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  6. I'm in the "Bishop needs to know" camp. These women took her on false pretenses of ward business. If that doesn't warrant telling the Bishop, I don't know what does.
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  7. Pro-tip... If you feel the need to lie(like they did)... for just about any reason... that means the spirit is not with you... And if the spirit is not with you then you not in a position to rebuke anyone with sharpness per D&C 121. I would set up a appointment with the Bishop and share with him the story. Because in many ways from what you say they did a bishop level worthiness interview.. without the calling or authority to do so. Now there most likely is more to the story then you know.. so go find out.
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  8. I would lose my mind if this happened, A face to face confrontation with both the YW president and 1st counselor is necessary. While I am sure everyone can appreciate their concern they have clearly over stepped their boundaries. I wouldn't email, wouldn't text, I would meet them in the same park and let them have it.
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  9. I 100% understand where @LiterateParakeet is coming from, don't use credit cards to accumulate debt. I have 2 credit cards and I use them as much as possible. I rarely use cash. I never use checks. Lastly I would never ever use a debit card. So...why? I use my credit cards as much as possible BUT only on items I was: 1. Going to buy anyways 2. Already have funds to pay for 3. That won't put me into debt There is a huge difference in using a: Credit card simply as a payment method vs. a Credit Card to to accumulate goods/services without sufficient funds to pay for them. Our credit cards give us: airline miles, buyer/fraud protections, itemized statements, tracking for our spending habits, better credit, etc. Airline miles alone allow us to take several trips a year. We pay our credit card balance to zero $0 each month and never carry debt on it or pay interest. Credit card companies probably hate me because they don't make any money on me. A young husband in our ward and I spoke the other day regarding business ideas he could learn from me. I told him you need to get a business credit card. You would have thought I told him to run over his dog with the car. He mentally was trapped in what you described above @Fether. Credit cards are dangerous tools for people who are foolish with money OR they are wonderful assets for people who follow the council to stay out of debt.
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  10. There is really no pomp an circumstance around it. Assuming he doesn't pass away first, the next President of the Church will be Russel M. Nelson. There will be a ceremony known as a Solemn Assembly where the First Presidency will be reorganized and we will sustain the leadership of the Church. There is nothing inherently special about a prophet of God except for the fact that he is a very righteous individual who has lived in such a way, and holds a character such that the Lord is able to use him; to call him to labor in that role. He is a man, just like any other, and both you and I are individually capable of being equally righteous and attaining the same knowledge, blessings, and personal revelations. Members should never view the prophet in the same way as as the woman with the issue of blood saw Jesus: A prophet is a holy man of God, nevertheless: All that being said feel free to wear a cape and red hat if you want as long as you post some pictures
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  11. I am so unqualified to advise you on the overall situation that I hesitate to say anything, but I'll say a few things anyway... First, if you're asking in your prayers which thing you should do, you might have better luck choosing one and then asking if it's right. Second, if you become overwhelmed to the point of suicidal thoughts, you won't be helping anyone anywhere, so do what's necessary to avoid that. Finally, it seems to me that the best resolution would be to get (yourself and) the minors out of that house and into one where the gospel is embraced by all, but I cannot imagine a legal way to do that (or not an easy one). I have few qualms about leaving adults to their choices when they've rejected reality / truth, but it just seems tragic for the minors to have to live in this situation. You have my prayers too.
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  12. In all honesty, sometimes yes, it is okay to be selfish. Look @a mustard seed, I'm going to give it to you straight. Sometimes LDS are too nice and too wonderful. There is a difference between "Christian love and joy" and "I am a doormat, and I'm going to go make a sandwich, do the laundry and vacuum for my cheating boyfriend." (Joking, but you see my point). I obviously can't make choices for you. You are a grown woman, intelligent and incredibly compassionate and understanding. I admire you for it (I really do!) but it's okay to set boundaries when you determine they are needed. love and prayers.
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  13. If your opinion was a pizza and you covered it with mushrooms, you could talk to me for hours bro. Seriously everyone, when I come to your house for dinner- I love mushrooms on my pizza. Take notes.
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  14. Every Thanksgiving for the past ten or fifteen years, I have entertained the children by yelling at the cooked turkey: "Oh, how the mighty have fallen! You ruled the planet for 200 MILLION YEARS, did you? Drove us into hiding in tunnels underground, did you? Oh, yes, cower before the mighty T-Rex! Well, who's eating whom NOW? HAH! MAMMALS RULE!" Or words to that effect.
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  15. Lifelong celibacy is contrary to God's plan. One of the things that happened because of the apostacy is the adoption of Greek philosophy into the church, and a big part of Greek philosophy was the idea that that physical world was inherently corrupt. This lead to lots of false ideas like God not having a physical body, sex being a dirty, necessary evil, original sin, Mary had to be life long virgin, and being celibate was a more spiritual state than being married. Now as a couple ages medical issues may alter, limit, or even eliminate sexual intimacy, but I don't think it is wise or right to impose artificial limits. Our sexuality is godly and it serves a purpose far beyond reproduction. See my blog post at http://latterday-marriage.blogspot.ca/2017/01/sex-and-exaltation.html for more on that.
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  16. My first love broke my heart. Crushed it. Ground it into a million pieces and then desiccated it with his indifference toward my pain. It was one of the hardest times of my life. It was right around the age of mission calls and going off to school and ill-advised promises. The hurt lasted a long, long time... and trust was sadly something I didn't learn until awhile after I married a good man (good and patient, obviously... and I am so thankful for him). During that time, one of the many naive attitudes I had was that he had deeply wronged me and would have to pay for it one day. I almost relished the thought. Guess who that hurt most? Not him. Many years later and almost having children that age, here is what I see: he was a boy. He made a lot of promises he thought he was ready for, and then changed his mind. Did it hurt me? Certainly yes. Do I hope he has to pay for it one day? No! I look at my own kids trying to find their way, and while I try to teach them not to make my mistakes (letting my heart get wrapped around someone before either of us is ready for it), I also see that they feel deeply and act impulsively and learn by making dumb mistakes. Heaven forbid I be punished for the dumb things I did when I was young. I learned, I grew up, I do better. Such is the way with all of us. Forgive the girl who hurt you, let go of hopes of retribution for her and others who have broken young hearts, and hold on to hope that usually the reason things like this happen is because there is something far, far better suited to who you will grow to be, and Heavenly Father already knows that.
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  17. I don't agree that a topic as important as sexuality does not require parental permission first. Sure, if my boy stole a cookie from a cookie jar or if he said inappropriate things in Sunday School or if he was disrupting the class or getting too competitive at mutual.... etc. etc. etc. Reprimand my kid and tell me about it so I can reinforce it at home. But, teaching my child about what they interpreted as my child's sexually inappropriate behavior? Talk to the parent first. And especially don't sneak my child out of my house for it.
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  18. I'm using all caps here for super extra very serious emphasis. If this was my child this happened to, I will not rest easy until the leaders are removed or my child removed from under their leadership. EVEN IF it comes out that my child is a lesbian! EVEN IF it comes out that the daughter is a secret lesbian, MY VIEWS ARE THE SAME - THIS IS STILL A CHURCH LEADERSHIP ISSUE. You do not go around the parent, take the daughter out on false pretenses and PARENT her outside of her home. YOU DO NOT DO THAT UNLESS YOU HAVE IRREFUTABLE PROOF THAT THE PARENTS ARE NEGLIGENT
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  19. I'm in the YW presidency. In our leadership trainings (usually with stake leaders) we've been told again and again, "No backup brownies." In other words, if the girls have an assignment for an activity. like bringing brownies, don't have a pan of them in your trunk just in case they flake out. Well that's about to blow up in my girls' faces today. We have a huge event tonight and they didn't prepare. It's hard but I think it's an important lesson for them. If they don't follow through because they know we'll bail them out, what are they learning? How does that prepare them for future leadership roles and service in the church? But then there's a price the leaders pay. I anticipate some nasty grams from parents being thrown my way. I'll just tell them what I usually do: "It's the kids' program, and they are instructed to run it. We're here for support. They're learning and mistakes will happen along the way, but in the end this is their responsibility." I'll still vent about it here, though.
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  20. *Warning: incoming bluntness* "Selfish"? @a mustard seed, taking care of yourself is in NO way selfish! Living your life is in NO way selfish! There isn't a single thing in this or any other post you've made that can be accurately described as "selfish". You need to feed yourself: physically, spiritually, emotionally financially, etc. That is NOT selfish, but being a disciple of Christ and a good steward over your life. You are NOT your mother's keeper and you need to get to a place where you can healthily feed yourself. You both are grown women and she does not require you to be around and enable her sins. As to the kids... they're going to need help not just today, but the tomorrow a decade from now too. Right now you're not much in a position to help yourself, much less them. You need to get in a strong safe place first, and then you can reach out and help pull them up.
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  21. I think there's a doctrine somewhere that says if you do your home teaching the first week of every month and always wear a white shirt all day on Sundays, you get 72 virgins in heaven.
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  22. Well, actually, you were kind of assigning feelings to them... "That can't make women in the church feel good." I don't know much about wimmin (despite being married to a wimming for 20 years), but I know it's rare to have them enjoy being told how they should be feeling.
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  23. Well, I found out what my problem was - cataracts! I had one eye done the other week and the other eye will be tomorrow. I went from 20/400+ in that eye to 20/25!!!!! I haven't had a score that low since I was a kid. A little kid. What a difference the surgery has made - the screen's not blurry, I've been able to take off the high contrast tool from most sites I visit, and don't have to jack the font up to 25. Wow! And Mordorbund, here's some vegetarian pasta for you, since I know you like veg food so much - http://www.food.com/recipe/tuscan-vegetarian-pasta-392763
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  24. Elder M. Russell Ballard recently spoke to our stake. He mentioned a friend of his who was aging and had served in many capacities. His wife had passed away some years prior. His children and grandchildren were getting older and were leading full and meaningful lives. He had seen the fruits of his labors as a father and grandfather as well as many other things he had done in church and community to improve and bless the lives of those around him. The friend spoke to Elder Ballard and asked him to be released from this life. He explained that he had been working a very long time. He missed his wife. His body was not what it used to be. Even though he was somewhat younger than Elder Ballard, he wasn't doing as well physically. (of course, at that age, it's just a number). After a long conversation going over many thoughts about this, they knelt down together and Elder Ballard prayed,"Father, my friend and brother has lived a good many years and has done much good in Thy Name... but now he's suffering much in this mortal frame. And from this side of the veil, it seems that he's done enough and he's ready to move on. If it be Thy will, please let him enter into Thy rest..." They embraced and said their goodbyes. He died in his sleep that night. I tell this story because it illustrates that the sentiment that "it is their time" may be true. But it also illustrates that we only see on this side of the veil. So, we cannot arbitrate death in such cases like this one per our wisdom alone. Elder Ballard left it in the hands of the Lord. And it was according to His will, not ours. The situation you outlined is a hypothetical. The problem with such a hypothetical is that it lacks all the details of real life situations. EVERY situation has millions of nuances that may completely alter whether such a decision is right or not. That is why every situation has it's own solution. In the end, if the Lord says do something, do it. If He says don't do something, don't do it.
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  25. I think it would be so weird to have people start speculating about my health and mortality every time i didn't show up to something.
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  26. No such thing. I really, truly believe that Heavenly Father and Jesus are so much more merciful and understanding than we give them credit for. Even if we ignore a prompting or warning, that doesn't mean that it's too late for things to work out. Ever. I also really, truly believe is that Heavenly Father cares about the covenants we HAVE made, and what we ARE doing, not our mistakes of the past. If you think you need to repent for ignoring a prompting, do that. Then stop torturing yourself with unknowns, and pour that energy into serving and loving the good man you chose. Choose your love, then love your choice. That's what President Monson said, and I believe the second part is the very most important. Love him, serve him, pray for his heart to be changed, put his happiness above anyone else's opinion, give him your absolute loyalty. Don't stand for people talking your sweetheart down in your presence. Be his and make him yours. Love is action, not a magical occurrence. It's not magic, it's work. I think a lot of what we're taught in YW or wherever about our wedding day does a huge disservice to us by making us expect some mystical experience. What it is, is taking someone you trust and love enough by the hand and making promises, and then keeping them. And THEN, enjoying the blessings of keeping them. I kind of feel like you're doing what Pres. Uchtdorf talked about once and holding an umbrella up, keeping yourself from blessings pouring down on you from heaven. Go to the temple often and do some proxy sealings, and gosh, all of the ordinances; not just to remind yourself of the promises you made, but of the amazing blessings promised to you, including all the strength and ability you need to get though hard things. Let go of your expectations, and ask Heavenly Father what His are. Ask what He wants for you, and for his son who you married and who He loves. Ask for your heart to be softened and changed toward your sweet companion. It's hard work, sister. I'm passionate about marriage and covenants and loyalty, but when the going gets tough I still sometimes get thoughts creeping in, wondering if I've made the right choices. The great thing is, that I'm the one in charge of my thoughts, and they only have as much power as I give them. When I start to focus on any little good thing I can find, and any way I can make his life easier, there's not so much room for the negative thoughts, and our relationship flourishes.
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  27. As an Asperger's person myself, I have to agree with this suspicion. High functioning spectrum people are indeed smart-- in fact, typically have very high IQ's, and feel extremely vibrantly. We're just not good a figuring out all these "invisible rules" people/society has and expressing things. In addition to the speaking out of turn, not following "normal" flow of conversation, there's lots of other little things that add up. Like I naturally make this really "weird" face when I'm thinking- it's not and the unwritten code says that my "weird" thinking face is not ok to make in public (people say I looking like I'm having a seizure). Who'd have thought that make a thinking face not ok? Is there a rational reason why it's not ok? Not really, it's just the unwritten code. And the invisible rules don't just say "don't make that face", there's LOTS of other rules in there too! In fact, it's a giant textbook of invisible rules! What's even more confusing is that this magical unwritten code changes! So in addition to learning the textbook invisible rules one time, I need learn the textbook for behavior at church, behavior at school, behavior at home, behavior in front of a boss, etc-- it's exhausting!! (Obviously I'm not your husband here, but I'm just expressing this because I suspect your husband might have similar experiences). So, do I read the invisible textbook of "rules"? Well, I don't have any choice really. Plus I want to succeed: like everyone else spectrum people do enjoy doing activities, being praised, and having friends. So I'll do it. But it's tiring. It takes a long time. Sometimes I'm sort of clueless. And sometimes I get REALLY frustrated trying to read an invisible textbook. But I got to do it. Sometimes I envy the "neurotypical" people around me, who seemingly learned the entire textbook library via osmosis and simply being in the room. But then, most times I don't want to be like them-- I want to be like me. I like me. I think outside of the box (frequently I don't even know where the invisible box is). I am entirely honest to people- even when they don't want to hear it. I can focus and conquer any problem faster than other people because I'm not distracted thinking about whether or not my shirt matches my shoes (ok, admittedly that's an extreme example). I have passions and loves like any other person, and I pursue them in a simple and direct manner. Asperger's people aren't bad at all, just different.
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  28. @Bluebird, has your husband been diagnosed with Aspergers? If not, might be a good place to start. M.
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  29. For those who have never read or heard Elder Packer's classic speech, and also for those who have, here it is as an Easter treat. http://emp.byui.edu/huffr/The Unwritten Order of Things -- Boyd K. Packer.htm
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  30. But if I choose root beer, rather than vodka or crystal meth; then I'm trying to avoid sin, and trying to "earn" my salvation, and thereby signaling my lack of faith in Jesus and my truly damned state. Logically, if I really want to be saved, I must take each and every opportunity to sin as flagrantly and flamboyantly as possible. Anything less equals a reliance on my own merits. The Bible clearly says that the path to true humility and salvation, lies in giving my life over to sin. So rather than getting a root beer I need to find a heroin dealer, shoot him, steal his stash, get myself good and wasted, and then go home and beat my wife--trusting wholly in Jesus to clean up the mess I've made, and crowing all the while about my moral superiority to those faithless rubes who commit the heresy of living prudently. It's the only Christian thing to do.
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  31. This is all the version I need - They took my daughter out of my home on false pretenses and talked to her about her doing something inappropriate WITHOUT MY KNOWLEDGE NOR PRESENCE. YOU DO NOT DO THAT TO MY CHILD. UNLESS YOU'RE IMPLYING that LilyFlower is LYING and that the YW President brought up her child's behavior with her mother before taking her out of her home to talk to her about it then you have a point. Otherwise, you have none. If you, yjacket, does this kind of thing to my boys, YOU WILL BE MY ENEMY. You do not know what I'm doing with my boys. You do not know how I'm addressing these things with my boys. I am the parent, you are not. Do not assume I'm a moron who do not know how to raise children. You have a problem with my boys, you talk to me.
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  32. Well, what constitutes adultery? Different people will give you different answers on that. Good question. Notice what Elder Oaks says here in his talk titled Divorce: I don't think that we can give hard and fast definitions. Each situation/marriage is unique and these decisions must be made with prayerful consideration. Some marriages afflicted with adultery, abuse or addiction might be salvageable, others may not.
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  33. Tonight during family scripture study, we read in Mosiah 11 about how King Noah taxed his people and lived in laziness. One of the taxed metals was Ziff. Immediately my daughter asked, "What is Ziff?" My wife explained that it was a metal and that they could have used it like we use money. My daughter asked, "Like what?" so my wife said, "Like how we use pennies and nickles and quarters and stuff." My daughter responded with an authoritative tone and said, "It will be a quarter." It was basically like this: So now it's official I suppose!
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  34. Yeah, I didn't mention the whole Gator / compound thing to the bishop when he called me... Things might have gone differently...
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  35. Maybe. Or maybe it's talking about the ability some people have to 'read' folks and see what's in their heart to a greater extent than humans usually can. I don't know.
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  36. Why in all these discussions of houses does everyone say they paid [some amount] which is clearly the market value, and later sold it for [some other amount] which is clearly the new market value, and never mention the interest paid on the loan, which, at the end of the day, is how much you really paid for the house? (Just curious.)
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  37. As a lot of you know, I was making a lot of threads where I was worried about the afterlife. After talking with my therapist we realized that I wasn't putting enough trust in the Lord. I'll explain what that means. I imagined in my mind an afterlife where I would have to be in control of all the heavenly rewards myself, like I would have to come up with everything I wanted, how I wanted it to look, and basically be working alone. Together with my therapist I've come to the conclusion that the Lord knows me better than I will ever know myself and I can trust in Him to decide what the afterlife will be like so I can stop worrying. Basically what it says in scriptures about not being able to comprehend what the Lord has prepared for those who love Him. Basically I was worrying that I would have to come up with everything I wanted on my own, instead of realizing and trusting that the Lord knows me better than I know myself and will bless me with what's best for me, whatever it is. This mind frame takes a whole load off my stress and worry about the afterlife and now I can just focus on this life taking life one day at a time, one moment at a time trying to be a disciple of Christ, knowing the Lord is watching and will judge accordingly and I can trust I will be happy with His judgement. I'm very much more relaxed after having this breakthrough today.
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  38. I'd tell her I'm very happy to move into a big fancy home, as soon as she gets around to buying me one.
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  39. Elder Tanner shared some of the details of the meeting where President Kimball was selected to succeed President Lee (and he shares the doctrine and history behind it).
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  40. The answers so far have talked about what the membership-at-large sees. Behind the scenes (and there have been conference addresses explaining this, though I can't think of a cite to one off-hand): on the prophet's death the remaining counselors of the first presidency resume their places in the Q12 (technically, now the Q14), which now assumes the role of the church's highest governing body. This status quo (Chirch history nerds call it an "apostolic interregnum) may continue for a few days, or (though this hasn't happened recently) for years. At some point in a Q12 meeting a motion is made to re-constitute the First Presidency. If it carries, then by tradition the second-senior apostle formally nominates the senior apostle as President of the Church. Once that motion carries, the President is set apart by the entire Q12; with the second-senior apostle (who is now the presumptive president of the Q12) acting as the voice. The President of the Church selects his counselors (traditionally, but not necessarily, drawn from the ranks of the Q12), which then (usually) creates a vacancy in the Q12 that is (usually) filled at the next General Conference; where the new First Pesidency and new President of the Q12 are also sustained.
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  41. I thought he was talking more about fear as a motivator. Are we following counsel because we are afraid of what might happen if we don't (I won't get blessings, I won't go to Heaven), or are we joyfully following Christ because we love and trust Him? Do we fear man, or have faith that Heavenly Father has our backs?
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  42. That's the thing. I respect women and care very much about them, and I get that there is a lot of sexism and discrimination out there. As an attorney, in fact, I am in the business of fighting discrimination, sexual harassment, and (in extreme cases) abuse. I despise the "frat boy" culture in many colleges and workplaces that is so disrespectful towards women (and occasionally dangerous), and I understand I am going to have to raise my daughter to be ready to deal with an ugly and disrespectful world. I know sexism when I see it, and I am willing to fight true sexism with every fiber of my being. The problem is when we start seeing discrimination where there is none. Is there really institutionalized discrimination in the Church? I don't think so. Groups like Ordain Women have convinced many people that there is a problem where absolutely none exists. Unfortunately, in convincing people there is something wrong with the Church, Ordain Women has destroyed the testimonies of hundreds of people, and for what? I will tell you what - for nothing. I am one of the most pro-women men you will ever meet. But if you want to see me get cranky real fast, accuse the Church of being discriminatory - I will speak my mind about this, because I think that this is one of the most destructive and ugly falsehoods I have seen in my lifetime.
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  43. My old man would tell me "You are right, life isn't fair. And you better hope it doesn't get fair. You live in the richest, most free country in the world where everything is at your finger tips. So you are right, it isn't fair. You are very lucky." Wise man.
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  44. (Yes, I know my pen's spell checker needs updating. There may also be a glitch in the wiring between the CPU and the pen-controllers. And I'm still trying to get this nib to work to my satisfaction. But even on crappy copy paper, that ink shades nicely.)
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  45. And you can bring that with your toasted biscuits!
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  46. More weird would be if they speculated about your health and mortality every time you did show up to something.
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  47. My DNA test haplotype originates in the middle east. So now we must be foes. Y'all are totally wrong about which son father Abraham chose, or something.
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  48. I'm finding 31% of births being medicaid funded to be abhorrent. The fact that it's one of the lowest in the nation nauseating.
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  49. While that is indeed the reason God gave. But lets not forget the teachings of Jacob in the Book Of Mormon. He clearly teaches that non-plural marriage is the Lord's default state of a people. Plural marriage is only acceptable when explicitly commanded by God. So if the reason God gave for stopping the practice is eliminated that does not mean that it automatically comes back. After all as far as we can tell during the entire History of the Book of Mormon God did not allow it, and they had some seriously righteous time periods.
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  50. No, I don't think both partners in a marriage have exactly the same sex drive. But the marriages you describe sound extreme: "impose oneself". "dictates". If that was the marriage I was facing, I might consider celibacy too. I tend to think that the couple can work together as partners to figure it out, just like many other things. "I can live comfortably on $20K a year." "We need at least $50K". "We should have another child." "I can't handle another child." "I need help keeping this house clean." "I'm already stretched thin as it is." "We should have more sex." "I think we have too much as it is." Discussions ensue. Discussions that are coupled with prayer, repentance, forgiveness, respect, love, compassion, and work. They approach it as equal partners. In the end one party may get exactly what they initially requested, but it will now be what both want - not a dictation, not an imposition.
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