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We got another one. My wife was following him prior to his baptism. He loved the temple open houses. Our clear communication. And Robins (the birds).

Last year as I was reading through the Book of Mormon again, I was inspired to really notice all the father-son(s) dynamics, I then realized that beyond being the "keystone of our religion" and our "latter-day survival guide", it is specifically directed at men. I believe Mormon was inspired to include the things he did because the Lord knew in the days it would come forward masculinity and manhood would be under attack and the accounts in the Book of Mormon can help to counter that trend. The Book of Mormon addresses: *how to be a good husband (Lehi) *how to be a good father (Lehi, Jacob, Enos, King Benjamin, Alma(s), Helaman ben Alma, etc...) *how to be a good mentor (Captain Helaman) *how to be a good friend/companion (Ammon ben Mosiah, Alma ben Alma) *how to be a good leader and citizen (Chief Captain Moroni) The Book of Mormon is literally a "How to Manual" of being a man.

It’s so late this year. I love to celebrate it the Thursday before Easter but it’s supposed to be celebrated beginning at sundown on Monday, April 22 thru sundown on Tuesday, April 30. What are yall doing? This will be our family’s 4th year to partake of the Seder.

By coincidence, I was asked to teach Enos - Words of Mormon on Sunday. The regular instructor will be out for a scheduled event, and so I'll be handling matters.

The teaching of additional light and truth to those who have already demonstrated an ability to discern truth from error does not generally cause the sort of reactions that you claim were caused by teaching the Adam-God theory. So that raises a question in my mind as to whether what was taught was indeed light and truth. It doesn't seem to be quite consistent with Doctrine and Covenants 88:40 For aintelligence cleaveth unto intelligence; bwisdom receiveth wisdom; ctruth embraceth truth; dvirtue loveth virtue; elight cleaveth unto light; fmercy hath gcompassion on mercy and claimeth her own; hjustice continueth its course and claimeth its own; judgment goeth before the face of him who sitteth upon the throne and governeth and executeth all things.

What happened was that when Filmation was about to ship He-Man out the door they realized that the violence in each episode was on a rather higher level than what kids' shows of the era normally contained. As a result, they devised the PSA bit at the end of each episode in order to put the violence in some sort of context as part of a larger moral bit. This "halo effect" concept caught on, and soon a number of cartoons were doing some sort of PSA or educational segment at the end of each episode. These initially faded away around the end of the 1980s as most of the shows that did these segments got cancelled, but briefly reappeared in the mid-1990s when Congress passed laws requiring that all over-the-air broadcast television stations had to air three hours of "educational and informative" kids' programming a week as stations used these segments to justify tagging whatever show they were attached to as E/I compliant. Nowadays they're more of a meme than anything else, although there are G. I. Joe fans who are open to the idea of the PSAs returning at the end of future content.

None of us here really have enough information to judge how much repentance you might need other then it does not appear you need the bishop. For me, the standard I try to use and I recommend is the Golden Rule... aka Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. In this case the application is pretty simple. Imagine your husband doing everything you did... feeling everything you felt... Are you OK with that? If you would be upset, angry or hurt if your husband did it to you... then you have got some work to do. But ultimately that is between you the Lord and possibly your husband. We really do not have enough to say anymore about it. Now you have been shown a weakness. This is great because you can't deal with things you do not know about. You have been shown a need and want that you have. There is nothing wrong with what you want. But there very much can be something wrong with how you go about getting what you want. So talk to your husband, tell him what you want. Odds are he wants it too. Once you guys are both aware of the issue you can make plans to deal with it. It most likely require the two of you investing time, money and effort into your relationship... Don't worry to much about that, because investing in your eternal marriage is one of the best investments you can make.

Not really. I was looking for (as Mav claimed) specific examples of Young's tendency to jump back and forth between topics without preamble or segue. I've read through the JoD and never noticed this tendency anywhere besides the A-G theory. It was so unusual that I distinctly remember the first time I ever read it, thinking,"This is really strange. Where did that come from? It has nothing to do with the topic he was just talking about. It came out of left field." Then when he was done with that, he seemed to pickup right where he left off. Literally, if you plucked A-G out of the discourse, it would seem like a perfectly seamless discourse. No other changes required. I have seen many times that speakers (incl. Young) would make a statement that he would give a little background that was tangentially related. And that background was necessary to understand the next section of the original topic. To some, this seems like jumping around. I don't because that is the way I do some discourses myself. But none of the discourses I've seen was as stark as A-G. None of them made me get whiplash from simply reading it. A-G did. That is why I believe there was some sort of mistake with this record, as well as the way people heard it.

Let's try a different set of numbered points: 1. You passed. You were tempted but you stayed true to your marriage, your vows, your faith. Not only did you not break the Law of Chastity, but you were tested and passed. 2. We men should value the women in our lives more. If we don't treasure our treasures, there are always others who will. 3. It speaks well of you that your husband trusts you take such long journeys without him. His discernment appears to be spot on. 4. Don't allow your desire for more attention to turn to bitterness. Again, we men should do better. Perhaps your husband should. 5. Nevertheless, don't underestimate what you have. 16 years? Three children? Blessings all! You did it together. Love/respect him openly. You'll be reassured.

Nails through the wrist as a method of crucifixion is a kind of specialized knowledge or information that researchers and historians know about, but it isn't widely known among regular people.

Alma 48: 17 Yea, verily, verily I say unto you, if all men had been, and were, and ever would be, like unto Moroni, behold, the very powers of hell would have been shaken forever; yea, the devil would never have power over the hearts of the children of men. Im pretty sure that Mormon named his son Moroni based off the reasoning of the above verse. Captain Moroni is a great example of manhood. The best example is Christ. Unfortunately, many artists, directors, and writers have portrayed Christ as a weak gentle man with feminine characteristics. He was not. The Book of Mormon give us a lens to better understand the masculinity of Christ.

While I believe this particular comment was a troll, I'm old and experienced enough to avoid claiming that no one is really that stupid.

The Berenstein Bears was a staple of my childhood, and my kids' as well. Honest look at family life, dealt with real issues. Before congress got involved and made GI Joe devote a portion of each episode to some stupid messaging directed at how kids shouldn't bully but should brush teeth or whatever.

I only brought up Adam-God in this particular discussion because I was pressed to provide a tangible example of something that supports the possibility that changed teachings in the church can be due to God taking away light and truth from the church because the majority of the members couldn’t handle it. In a general sense Adam-God is important to me personally because I believe in searching out and embracing all truth. The Adam-God doctrine was taught as truth and a mystery of God by the president of the church for 25 years from the pulpit in General Conference, in priesthood meetings, and in the temple. To me this makes it significant.

And, to top it off, Big Brother starts in the summer and I’m glued to that show. Been a fan since 2001!

Decided it warrants a quote: Be the ship.

I agree with you. This is a really interesting post. Thank you!

I think you mean Camp 2.

https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/sites-released-for-three-temples-in-florida-and-utah

If you're gonna use anything from that film as an example, you must use this scene where Gandalf scares Sam just because he can:

At this juncture, maybe it would be appropriate to open a new topic addressing Adam/God?

Ralph Bakshi's Lord of the Rings was another example. Although Bakshi's movie is a mess, I think this scene was way better than Peter Jackson's. It is much closer to the book, and Annette Crosby has the perfect voice for Galadriel.

I don’t believe that the general church membership had demonstrated the ability to discern truth from error beyond recognizing the truthfulness of the restored gospel in general. Speaking of these same people, Joseph Smith had said: “[T]here has been a great difficulty in getting anything into the heads of this generation. It has been like splitting hemlock knots with a corn-dodger for a wedge, and a pumpkin for a beetle. Even the Saints are slow to understand. I have tried for a number of years to get the minds of the Saints prepared to receive the things of God; but we frequently see some of them, after suffering all they have for the work of God, will fly to pieces like glass as soon as anything comes that is contrary to their traditions: they cannot stand the fire at all. How many will be able to abide a celestial law, and go through and receive their exaltation, I am unable to say, as many are called, but few are chosen.” (Jan. 20, 1844.) DHC 6:183-185. Many church members received the Adam-God teaching with gladness and considered it to be light and truth revealed from heaven. This included apostles like Wilford Woodruff, Lorenzo Snow, and Franklin D. Richards. Others had difficulty accepting it as it went against their traditions.

I have been watching some of his videos. (52 Churches in 52 Weeks.) It made me want to go down and visit the Manti Temple in Utah.

Thanks for posting this @mikbone I was unaware of this guy. After reading your post I watched two of his episodes.

Thanks, yeah makes a big difference. Robins are everywhere. Cardinals are mostly on the Eastern half of the USA. vs

Cardinals.

This is the most famous example, but it was first invented by Max Fleischer of Fleischer Studios back in the late 1930s / early 1940s. It's why so many of his action cartoons, like Superman, seem so lifelike given the technical limitations of the day.

I remember the He-Man/She-Rah cartoons where at the end of each episode the moral lesson would be pointed out. It was usually something like "Don't kick the bad guy when he's down, even if he is a jerk" or "you won't have your grandparents forever ever, so appreciate them while you can". Not bad really, for a franchise that was mostly about selling plastic junk.

C'mon Gator admit it, this is the only reason you never burned yourself on a stove, or bullied people, or huffed the marijuanas.

GI Joe was my thing and I still collect the comics. I don’t like the “Now I know” socially responsible stuff either. I found it silly, even as a kid.

You probably need to get out more. (should have strike-thru formatting) I have a very diverse group of clientele. It takes quite a bit to surprise me now though. As I am quite seasoned. Hope to retire in 10 years. Me, “You did what!?” Edit, I mis-read your reply. Us old / experienced guys have seen some stuff.

It's actually quite fascinating and was a major draw for me towards fundamentalism during my wilderness journey.

It sounds like your journey through Church history has been quite a rollercoaster of emotions, from bitterness to reconciliation. It's heartening to hear that the bitterness between your religious institutions has softened over time, allowing for collaboration and support in preserving historical artifacts. It seems like a hopeful step towards unity and mutual respect among believers. Thank you!

Apparently they have to turn on some sort of machine and technically it leads to some building on said planet.

I discovered one I admittedly haven't finished yet, but my husband did and says it's awesome, despite being cancelled after the first season. Night Sky. Sissy Spacek and J. K. Simmons happen to have a tunnel in their shed that leads to another planet. And there's weird cultish secret societies and the tragic realities of aging.

Party's on...

I've been streaming the '90s tv series Sliders on the Roku channel.

That’s right up my alley. Thank. There was a whistleblower for Madof that tried calling the SEC several times as well. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Markopolos

To be fair, I’m sure some people probably did see it coming, but it’s like a historic college football game-more people say they were there then actually were there.

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The "bar" has a footnote to Moroni 10. I noted that the "bar" (from Moroni 10) used in conjunction with "Eternal Judge" indicates that the "bar" spoken of is about the final judgement. Maybe, maybe not. I was thinking of "the bar" that is used in modern settings for the inner area in the courtroom for the judge and lawyers. So, I could see this referring to God as the ultimate judge. Therefore, we meet at his bar. The problem is that this usage of the word "bar" is of modern origin. It was far later than Moroni, and certainly later than Jacob. So, why is this "bar" used in these verses? It is easy enough to say that these were simply the best modern language equivalents to ancient figures of speech. And it could be. But I just don't feel right about it. Another answer didn't occur to me until I re-read the words: This isn't the bar of a modern courtroom. This is a scepter, either of the Egyptian Pharaoh or a Judge of Israel (or possibly some combination of the two). I prefer that dual symbolism of the Egyptian Pharaohs. The flail and scepter were double-dual symbols. The flail could punish disobedient servants, or it could be used to thresh wheat, thus providing for the people. The shepherd's crook was either a way to STRIKE down a criminal, or to bring a repentant soul into the fold. To say that the bar (staff, rod, etc.) was "pleasing", and then say that is striketh fear and dread, would indicate a dual symbol.

I really have missed this group! My children keep having children, then they get married and you know the routine. With the grands and great grandchildren...there are 32 of the little critters with another 2 greats coming this summer! I read the highlights sent to my email, and inbetween dehydrating, found time to sit down and say hi!

We, the membership, only receive what we prepare ourselves to receive. If there is a lack of "many great and important things" it's because we haven't responded adequately to what we have already been given. Remember the Liahona wouldn't work unless they had the faith to exercise obedience. I believe Pres. Nelson has much more he has received and wants to reveal it, but unless we get to the House of the Lord as counseled, it will continue to be withheld.

IMO, that's not what's happening here. I mean, "these two feathers went over to the head on the right" cannot in any way be understood as "they left the right side and went to the bad side". I think dude is just royally confused or spouting what he wants it to say, or something. (But yes, generally, you're right.) Amen! Double amen! Amen and amen! I believe this is in part due to our language, which cannot communicate everything (see all the instances in 3 Nephi where people were unable to write, speak, or even imagine the things Christ said). I think there are things in each of us that we simply cannot communicate to others - we'll have to do it in the next life (this includes the depth of certain feelings, the significance to us of small acts of kindness, and the things we have come to understand). To try would take volumes. And, of course, you cannot teach trigonometry to someone who has yet to learn algebra.

Death cults gotta death cult. It's always fun to ask these folks about their proposed solutions. The decent ones say "I'm not going to have children and contribute to the problem." The problematic ones propose all sorts of things from expanding access to birth control, to outright forced sterilization and murder. But they never see it that way. It's always couched in innocent terms like "we need to create a society where all couples have one or two children max". You get to asking them about the details. What happens if a couple ends up with three, or five, or ten? Do you want to convince people to join voluntarily, or do you believe in using government force like China?

Word meanings change. The word "power" has a specific definition in physics; it means the rate of energy delivery. It doesn't mean anything else, just that. "Solar power", as the term is usually used, is a misnomer that physicists roll their eyes at, to say nothing of "political power" or "girl power" or "the power of love". How do you suppose "Priesthood power" fits into that definition? (Hint: It doesn't.) "The elements" mean the essential, basic things around us. The fact that 19th-century chemists assigned a specific definition of the word element, namely a species of atom with a certain positive number of protons in the nucleus, doesn't mean that the old definitions don't work any more. They do. Consider: The book of Leviticus lists unclean birds that the children of Israel were to avoid eating. The final entry of unclean birds in that list is `atalleph (עֲטַלֵּף), Hebrew for "bat". Now—and I am not making this up—I once heard someone (an atheist) mock the Bible because the book of Leviticus says that bats are birds. No kidding. This guy seriously thought that since ancient Palestinians did not follow our modern taxonomy, but instead counted the bat (a small, winged, flying creature) as a type of bird, that meant that the Bible was made up. People understand things based on previous experience. But any reasonably intelligent and open-minded person will also understand that words can be used in different ways and with different meanings. The fact that a certain word, e.g. "element", means one thing in Context A and another thing in Context B really shouldn't faze anyone. The power of the Priesthood—yes, power, even if that doesn't mean rate of energy usage—is not water bending or any other comic book idea. It's the reality of how the universe is put together. It gives control over the elements, where the elements has a much more expansive definition than simply the list of types of atoms with increasing atomic numbers.