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  1. This is true; but as a parent of boys who *will be* teenagers I plan to make sure they understand that it’s also possible for even a teenaged boy to live in such a way that even if someone made such an accusation—virtually no one would believe it. Someone who has no reputation for getting puke-your-guts-out, blackout drunk (or who is frequently in the company of others who do); is going to have a harder time getting and keeping that sort of patina on their character. Meanwhile, this article strikes me as a reasonably clear-eyed view of the current situation.
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    article in Mormon Light

    I agree with your post, @The Folk Prophet; but it’s probably also worth noting that we didn’t start out as homogenous. We started out as a polyglot of regional antebellum Americans and various Western European peoples and cultures and languages, all of whom made a conscious decision to merge into a common culture. There always needs to be a balance between institutionally accommodating what can’t realistically be changed, while also letting people know that “this is just who I am” only gets you so much mileage in a gospel of repentance.
  3. I’m taking about the letter @anatess2 is referring to; not the accuser’s letter.
  4. Hmm. I suppose that might be relevant if one thought the letter was relevant—but I, personally, never did. So in my book, an irrelevancy to an irrelevancy doesn’t suddenly become relevant.
  5. Yeah, I saw that earlier today. Not really a fan of the whole “well, she was a drunken skank and had racist friends anyways” approach to rape allegations. To me, the more material thing is the “will-I-or-won’t-I-testify?” game she’s playing with the Senate. If the victim won’t talk, then we’re done here.
  6. I would suggest you look back on page 2 of this thread discussion. The idea has come up. And, as much as I like and respect the members of this forum; I’ll give the Q15 just a smidge more deference—if they make such a policy change.
  7. Not really. If someone’s saying that a particular policy change (like, shortening the Sunday block) would bring about a desired result (like, people actually doing Godly stuff they aren’t currently doing), and TFP or I say “it might not work, because many of the people who would be affected are unlikely to actually do critical action x”, it isn’t really valid to reply “well, it’s none of your business whether they do x or not!!!”
  8. People sort of make it “our business” when they suggest that our church is preventing them (and/or a critical mass of its own membership) from accomplishing in a thirteen-hour Sunday what they could and would easily and consistently accomplish in a fourteen-hour Sunday.
  9. I don’t think I said it’s *all* about a post-Trump GOP. I believe I specifically referred to a few commentators who were saying that even if the accusations are true, Kavanaugh should be confirmed.
  10. I rarely do either. And thus I include myself in the group of people who would probably not utilize an extra hour in a Sundays nearly as well as we like to think we would.
  11. I think I understand where you are coming from, and I partly agree. But, I think @The Folk Prophet‘s observation about “a majority” of Church members is likely to be empirically true (if also rather unparliamentary). I base that off my anecdotal experience that, in any given Church class, it seems that fewer than 40% of the class has done the reading that pertains to the lesson. If I can’t find 20 minutes of personal time to study Church curriculum under the status quo, then claims that I’d devote another hour of free time exclusively (or even just primarily) to similar activities suggest either a lack of honesty or a lack of self-awareness on my part.
  12. I fully agree about *constitutionalist* versus *conservative*—at this point in time there’s a lot of overlap between the two; but you’re correct that *constitutionalist* is preferable when it comes to the federal bench. As far as “destruction” and “process”—I agree the Dems are playing dirty pool; but not every incident of dirty pool leads to a constitutional crisis. The GOP just needs to find a way to make it backfire so spectacularly that the Dems never try it again.
  13. Could we do 3.5 hours of church, if the extra half-hour were spent on “inoculating” discussions over thorny historical issues?
  14. First off, referring to parts of your post that I haven’t cited here—the only real distinction I remember noticing about the High Priests in the wards where I grew up and spent much of my time as a twenty-something Elder, was that the room where they met invariably smelled terrible after one of their meetings. (Apparently, those old guys could really “let loose” in there.) I have never had any desire to be a part of that group, and no one has ever suggested to me that I should want to be a part of it. This business of the high priests group as some super-duper club that everyone wanted to join, is absolutely foreign to my experience in the restored Gospel. Second, as pertains to the above specifically: I question the assertion that receiving the Second Anointing was ever seen either as a) a social status symbol, or b) a rite of passage to which an active Mormon was ever seen as being “entitled” to receiving on reaching a fixed age. So far as I recall, Buerger’s seminal work on the topic makes no such assertions; and in fact suggests that the 2A has always been something that a) if you had it, you didn’t talk about it and b) a ritual that Church leadership has traditionally guarded very closely at least since the John Taylor presidency and, even at times of relatively broad administration, was still the exception rather than the rule and was typically reserved for the “very elderly”.
  15. My folks in CA have some pretty fond memories of bringing picnic lunches and basically spending the day together as a ward, since many members lived an hour or more from their church building.