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  1.    wenglund reacted to a post in a topic: Spirit Children
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    Not exactly, he also had a big problem with interracial marriages. From what I've read I think Joseph Smith was more okay with men of color holding the priesthood then Brigham Young and some of the earlier leaders of the church were.
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    Hasn't pretty much everything Brigham Young said and set aside by today's Church?
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    I guess I just wanted to see what members thought about it, with no drama.
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    I live in Utah so most of the people I know are LDS, and when I have talked to them about her behavior, they agree she is not normal. LOL. Weird stuff is like continuing to have children in Heaven, polygamy, having your own earth, Joseph Smith being sealed to other men wives. There are other things that are not weird I just don't agree with. I'm sure you have all heard my doubts from other people that come on to be hateful, so I won't bore you with all of it.
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    1. I don't feel like I being a traitor to my mother. The relationship with his wife is very complicated. 2. I don't need to forgive my father for anything he has done nothing wrong. He just strongly wants me to believe something I don't. Believe it or not you all have been helping me understand why someone would want to believe in Spirit Children. It's not for me, or my version of what I hope Heaven will be.
  13. TurboGirl
    That is what I am trying to do is understand. He just gets very upset with my questions, and upset that I just don't believe the same thing. I've even gone through the missionary discussions for him. And they don't take about any of this stuff.
  14. TurboGirl
    In my book yes she is not a nice person. She uses my dad beliefs to manipulate him, and she is very jealous of him giving his time to anyone but her (he even had to get rid of the dog he shared with my mom). Her belief/love for the LDS church are unlike any other member I have met, it a little disturbing, and she is now taking my dad with her. When I was Mormon I did not know that they still believed polygamy in the after life, until my dad announced he was going to marry again for eternity. This woman then became obsessed with my mom, and using information to manipulate my dad. He was not that into the Church before my mom died, and not so obsessed with getting me and my family to go.They have both turn into, in my opinion, religious fanatics. Telling me all kinds of stuff, that I started to look up on LDS.org and other sources...and it was true stuff. Maybe to people that believe this stuff is okay, but to an outsider it's just very weird. He begged me to read the BOM, which I did. I don't know, maybe there is no understanding it for me. To bad my dad makes talking about religion as a condition of being around him.
  15. TurboGirl
    And here lies the Dilemma. I can't see the Bible or the Book of Mormon as factual historical books. Jesus liked to teach in Fables, I see both book as stories. Also because of my dad's beliefs he's brought a person into our lives that is brought nothing but pain to our whole family, and because he married her for Time and Eternity, he will not admit that he made a huge mistake. he believes that my mom will accept this woman and live in polygamy for all eternity. I also don't see how unloving father would ask his daughter's to live this way. All this stuff is just doesn't seem right, doesn't sound like anything I would want to do for eternity. My dad prays and goes to the temple at least twice a week, for me to change. The fact that I can't wrap my head around this stuff causes him nothing but pain. And I don't know how to fix that.
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    I have read this about the heavenly mother. But when I went to church as a youth, some 30 plus years ago, she was never talked about. In fact it's a fairly recent thing that they've started to bring her up. I get the biblical Jesus "pray to my father in my name", but yet there is nothing in art or music about heavenly mother. As a last act before my mother was buried they covered her face, and as I understand in the temple women cover their face... If women are so sacred and important why is that part of it? And even if a spiritual pregnancy is different than a mortal pregnancy... Why is raising children the main thing? Would it be more pleasant in Heaven to enjoy a couple hundred years of not having children? Like a honeymoon of just you and your husband figuring out your new environment together.
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    Do I believe we are children of God... That's kind of a tricky one for me right now. Do I hope there's something after this life...yes. Am I unclear as to what that is...definitely. So when we were growing is Spirit children, would it be the same as our existence here on Earth growing as children? And that's another thing that I always hear, how we lived with our father in Heaven, but you never hear anything about your mother in heaven. So as a woman; how is being eternally pregnant and then your children never speaking of you again, a plan of happiness?
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    So the having of spirit children can happen as soon as you and your husband have died? You don't have to wait to be exalted? And then they're just Spirits they don't have a real body because they haven't come to Earth. And does the having of spirit children happen the same way as here on Earth? Does a woman have to be pregnant for 9 months with a spirit child? And so God still having Spirit children to this day?
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    Why after we die would we continue to have children? After the second coming the earth will end so what is the point to having children? The church promises women in the church, that never have a chance to marry in this life, that they will have a chance in the next life and will have children then...but how do you raise a child in the church when they are already in Heaven? I was baptized in the church, and went off and on, but I just never really got into it. I didn't know some of the deep stuff until my mom died, and my dad got really into the church and married another women for time and eternity basically making him a polygamist. I have been trying to understand all this stuff, and I know there is no way of proving any of it. But every time me and my dad talk about the things I just can't wrap my head around it turns into a huge fight. So maybe someone here can help me at least understand what I am doing to trigger him so I can at least be able to talk with him again without the fighting.
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    But that leads me to another question, how can someone "keep their covenants" after they have died? If get to the after-life you would know for sure what is true or not.
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  26. TurboGirl
    Thank you, I read it. One of my problems, and I wish there was a better explanation to why temple marriage got so important only in the D&C, why is there no mention of Jesus being married in the temple in Bible or the BOM, or that he was married at all? Plus in both of the articles they talk about how much better a marriage is if you know it is for eternity. I know lots of strong marriage that did not begin in a temple. What if you married to quickly, and the person you married isn't someone you want in your family for all eternity?