TheOne13 Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 Why is coffee or tea forbidden but it's okay to drink things like Coke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anatess2 Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, TheOne13 said: Why is coffee or tea forbidden but it's okay to drink things like Coke? Because tea and coffee is not the same as Coke. Vort, Midwest LDS and Anddenex 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
omegaseamaster75 Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 2 hours ago, TheOne13 said: Why is coffee or tea forbidden but it's okay to drink things like Coke? Because God said so, he didn't mention Coke Sunday21, Anddenex, Overwatch and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) Here is some good background, although it doesn't really answer your question. https://www.lds.org/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-29-the-lords-law-of-health?lang=eng I don't think we know why the Lord counsels us to not ingest coffee and tea. Modern day religious dietary guidelines are what they are. I'm glad the restoration didn't re-institute all that Law of Moses dietary stuff that is today's Jewish Kosher customs. Edited July 20, 2018 by NeuroTypical Midwest LDS and Vort 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mordorbund Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 39 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said: I'm glad the restoration didn't re-institute all that Law of Moses dietary stuff that is today's Jewish Kosher customs. zil, Overwatch, NeuroTypical and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 1 hour ago, mordorbund said: Overwatch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anatess2 Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 11 minutes ago, Vort said: Ugh Vort, my IQ just dropped to the lower side of lukewarm. I lasted 6 seconds of the 10 hours. Payback: Vort, zil, Overwatch and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 Yay Tobuscus! I hope dude has landed himself a plethora of well-paying gigs since YouTube stopped being lucrative. He's talented. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vort Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 42 minutes ago, anatess2 said: Ugh Vort, my IQ just dropped to the lower side of lukewarm. I lasted 6 seconds of the 10 hours. Good thing I didn't post the link I meant to post. Here's the one-hour version. mordorbund 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jane_Doe Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 6 hours ago, TheOne13 said: Why is coffee or tea forbidden but it's okay to drink things like Coke? God specifically instructed us to not partake of coffee or tea, hence we don't do that. If a person wants to have some Coke, they can. Conversely, if a person doesn't want to have Coke (because it's not good for you) they can indeed choose to pass. Your choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 I know that wars have been started over Word of Wisdom issues, but I thought some organic teas were okay? Asking, not claiming they are. Nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grunt Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MormonGator said: I know that wars have been started over Word of Wisdom issues, but I thought some organic teas were okay? Asking, not claiming they are. Nothing more. Herbal tea, not organic. Herbal teas aren't really tea, such as Yerba Mate, Guayusa, and Yaupon. There are also fake coffees like Pero and Postum. Edited July 20, 2018 by Grunt Midwest LDS and Chilean 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, MormonGator said: I know that wars have been started over Word of Wisdom issues, but I thought some organic teas were okay? Asking, not claiming they are. Nothing more. Various common notions are along the lines of herbal ok, green/black not-ok. I've never heard of organic ok, non-organic not-ok. But with the pervasiveness of the organic marketing campaigns and the zeal of those who feel organic is somehow healthier, it wouldn't surprise me to discover that some mormons might think so. (Like, the ones that shop at Whole Foods and whose brows furrow disdainfully when an SUV drives by.) 4 minutes ago, Grunt said: Herbal tea, not organic. Herbal teas aren't really tea, such as Yerba Mate, Guayusa, and Yaupon. Yep - the other day someone showed up with fancy tea made out of some sort of grass that grows in Australia (or some such). Tea comes from tea leaves, from a tea plant. Soaking blueberry or mint leaves, etc, in water and serving it hot, doesn't qualify as tea IMO. Edited July 20, 2018 by NeuroTypical Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 Thanks guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 8 minutes ago, MormonGator said: I know that wars have been started over Word of Wisdom issues DesertRat, Overwatch, Sunday21 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted July 20, 2018 Report Share Posted July 20, 2018 Choose the Sprite, when a Coke is placed before you! In the Sprite, will no caffeine reside! Overwatch, Chilean, zil and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironhold Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 http://www.caffeineinformer.com/ It surprises most people how much caffeine they take down in a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 minute ago, Ironhold said: http://www.caffeineinformer.com/ It surprises most people how much caffeine they take down in a day. So many people drink those energy drinks. Creeps me out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeuroTypical Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Ironhold said: http://www.caffeineinformer.com/ LOL I didn't expect to see that. Guess I've got absolutely no problems at all here. Midwest LDS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unixknight Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 14 hours ago, TheOne13 said: Why is coffee or tea forbidden but it's okay to drink things like Coke? This question assumes the issue is the caffeine. It is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zil Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, NeuroTypical said: Guess I've got absolutely no problems at all here. Sure, as long as you only drink half of that 442nd can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironhold Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 hours ago, NeuroTypical said: LOL I didn't expect to see that. Guess I've got absolutely no problems at all here. The numbers assume that you're in perfect health, however. If you have a heart, nervous, or circulatory condition, it's a lot lower. I do indeed have a heart condition, and so between that and the bleeding stress ulcer back in '92 I'm under medical restriction anyway. NeuroTypical 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Scott Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) Quote Why is coffee or tea forbidden but it's okay to drink things like Coke? It is kind of a stretch to call drinking Coke "okay", especially since we are advised by the church not to do it. There have been plenty of Church statements saying that we shouldn't drink it, but it is more of a warning and advisement rather than an official commandment, if that makes sense. It would be in the category of watching a rated R movie. Members are told we shouldn't do either, but you likely aren't going to face church discipline if you do. Anyway, rather than state any of my own opinion, I'll cut cut one of many statments on cola drinks from LDS.org https://www.lds.org/new-era/1972/05/policies-and-procedures?lang=eng Cola Drinks and the Word of Wisdom The Word of Wisdom, section 89 of the Doctrine and Covenants, [D&C 89] remains as to terms and specifications as found in that section. There has been no official interpretation of that Word of Wisdom except that which was given by the Brethren in the very early days of the Church when it was declared that ‘hot drinks’ meant tea and coffee. With reference to cola drinks, the Church has never officially taken a position on this matter, but the leaders of the Church have advised, and we do now specifically advise, against the use of any drink containing harmful habit-forming drugs under circumstances that would result in acquiring the habit. Any beverage that contains ingredients harmful to the body should be avoided. Edited July 21, 2018 by Scott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MormonGator Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 On 7/21/2018 at 3:03 PM, Scott said: It is kind of a stretch to call drinking Coke "okay", More arguments are started over this than any other topic. Seriously. You can tell an LDS man that his mother was a ___________, but when Coke and Pepsi are mentioned, break out the swords. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Folk Prophet Posted July 22, 2018 Report Share Posted July 22, 2018 On 7/20/2018 at 9:19 PM, NeuroTypical said: LOL I didn't expect to see that. Guess I've got absolutely no problems at all here. It doesn't tell me how much aspertame is a lethal dose. jerome1232 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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